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DonFerrari said:
GOWTLOZ said:

Apparently it was FIA themselves which pushed MTs in GT Sport. I would have to look into it more but that's what I'm hearing.

I know Forza has tons of cars, including stuff like trucks and buggies that have no place in a motorsports game.

Paid DLC affects my enjoyment because I feel I'm not getting the full package, even if the base game has lots of cars most are meh and some of the paid ones I want to drive.

Ofc if you care about cars and tracks GT6 is the epitome of the genre, but I don't see criticism levied at Forza 7 for having 500 fewer cars than GT6.

I get what you're saying about them lying, it doesn't affect the quality of the game itself. Also GT Sport has way better physics, sounds and graphics than Forza 7, which is why I think it deserves more acclaim. Forza 7 has more content and dynamic weather and day night cycles which I like.

Its sort of similar to the GT6 versus FM4 debate, GT6 had more cars, tracks, dynamic weather and day night cycles but also had better physics. Forza 4 had more consistent quality of cars, better sounds and graphics. Still GT6 was criticised for what it lacked compared to Forza 4 rather than where it was better and Forza got acclaim with less than half the content of GT5 and worse physics than GT5 let alone GT6.

Crazy that FIA would be demanding it....

LudicrousSpeed said:
Hard to praise developers for free DLC when the games they release are light on content. I mean, of course the GTS updates are free. Look at what it launched with. Same as when people say Hello Games deserve praise for post launch NMS support... no they don’t. Or whoever is working on the Master Queef Collection for all that games updates and improvements. In all three cases, the free updates have just pretty much made the games what they should have been at launch.

When a lot of the early buyers were satisfied with the content then the free DLC is indeed bonus and deserve praise. How many of the FM5 DLCs were free?

FM5 had some free DLC and two free tracks but bringing that game up now it pointless since it have been delisted for almost a year already. 



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Chris Hu said:
DonFerrari said:

Crazy that FIA would be demanding it....

When a lot of the early buyers were satisfied with the content then the free DLC is indeed bonus and deserve praise. How many of the FM5 DLCs were free?

FM5 had some free DLC and two free tracks but bringing that game up now it pointless since it have been delisted for almost a year already. 

So it's pointless to ask FMs that had low content and paid DLC when someone says that GTS free DLCs doesn't deserve any commendment because base game was bare?



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http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

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DonFerrari said:
Chris Hu said:

FM5 had some free DLC and two free tracks but bringing that game up now it pointless since it have been delisted for almost a year already. 

So it's pointless to ask FMs that had low content and paid DLC when someone says that GTS free DLCs doesn't deserve any commendment because base game was bare?

Let's see FM5 took less then half the time to develop then GTS and still managed to launch with more cars and tracks and overall content.  On top of all that FM5 didn't remove a major feature that was present in all previous games.  GTS removed the ability to upgrade cars which was a major feature in all previous GT games.  If Forza would remove the ability to upgrade cars the game would face a major backlash and a giant drop in sales.  Also every Forza game since FM2 had some paid DLC, so the fact that FM5 had paid DLC was a surprise to no one.



Chris Hu said:
DonFerrari said:

So it's pointless to ask FMs that had low content and paid DLC when someone says that GTS free DLCs doesn't deserve any commendment because base game was bare?

Let's see FM5 took less then half the time to develop then GTS and still managed to launch with more cars and tracks and overall content.  On top of all that FM5 didn't remove a major feature that was present in all previous games.  GTS removed the ability to upgrade cars which was a major feature in all previous GT games.  If Forza would remove the ability to upgrade cars the game would face a major backlash and a giant drop in sales.  Also every Forza game since FM2 had some paid DLC, so the fact that FM5 had paid DLC was a surprise to no one.

All I see are excuses to say GTS having free DLC is pointless while FM5 should be excused even if it had paid DLC... such double standard.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

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At this point, I dont see why anyone actually cares that GTS has MTX. As long as these MTXs dont break the current systems in place (xp, currency, prices) then really its not exactly a problem. I dont recall seeing ppl complaining that earning credits to buy cars was a massive grind. And if that doesnt change then all is ok.



Maybe it gets overshadowed by the other great PS4 exclusives?



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DonFerrari said:
Chris Hu said:

Let's see FM5 took less then half the time to develop then GTS and still managed to launch with more cars and tracks and overall content.  On top of all that FM5 didn't remove a major feature that was present in all previous games.  GTS removed the ability to upgrade cars which was a major feature in all previous GT games.  If Forza would remove the ability to upgrade cars the game would face a major backlash and a giant drop in sales.  Also every Forza game since FM2 had some paid DLC, so the fact that FM5 had paid DLC was a surprise to no one.

All I see are excuses to say GTS having free DLC is pointless while FM5 should be excused even if it had paid DLC... such double standard.

Forza games get free DLC on  regular basis also.  So yeah GTS having free DLC isn't a big deal especially since most of that DLC has been content that appeared in previous games already.  Almost all the paid DLC in Forza games has been brand new content.  Also like I already mentioned earlier the paid DLC in Forza games is priced very reasonably and lower then paid DLC in other racing games and since it only has a four year live cycle its on sale on a semi regular basis. 



Chris Hu said:
DonFerrari said:

All I see are excuses to say GTS having free DLC is pointless while FM5 should be excused even if it had paid DLC... such double standard.

Forza games get free DLC on  regular basis also.  So yeah GTS having free DLC isn't a big deal especially since most of that DLC has been content that appeared in previous games already.  Almost all the paid DLC in Forza games has been brand new content.  Also like I already mentioned earlier the paid DLC in Forza games is priced very reasonably and lower then paid DLC in other racing games and since it only has a four year live cycle its on sale on a semi regular basis. 

How would these content be content that appeared on previous game if we had stablished that those models were outdated and useless? Or have they just become relevant and just needed to be packed and uplodaded? If that was the case why small and steady dlcs instead of a paid gold version?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

DonFerrari said:
Chris Hu said:

Forza games get free DLC on  regular basis also.  So yeah GTS having free DLC isn't a big deal especially since most of that DLC has been content that appeared in previous games already.  Almost all the paid DLC in Forza games has been brand new content.  Also like I already mentioned earlier the paid DLC in Forza games is priced very reasonably and lower then paid DLC in other racing games and since it only has a four year live cycle its on sale on a semi regular basis. 

How would these content be content that appeared on previous game if we had stablished that those models were outdated and useless? Or have they just become relevant and just needed to be packed and uplodaded? If that was the case why small and steady dlcs instead of a paid gold version?

If a car appeared in previous games its not new content.  FM7 brought back many cars from FM4 nobody considers those new content as matter of fact a lot of people bashed the game for bring back those cars instead of adding cars that weren't in any previous games.