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Nautilus said:
Lonely_Dolphin said:
Jesus you are reaching incredibly hard. Common sense should tell you that if surprise factor can't help a bad game, but a good game can still excite and succeed without surprise factor, then the game being good is all that matters.

Im reaching?lol

This is marketing 101.Even if you have a good product, marketing it the right way can help the boost of said product all the more.Im not saying that surprise is the only tactic there is, but it is one of the biggest you can pull.Creating expectation for an event and then exceding that expectation with something no one saw comming make that initial hype even bigger.Better yet, it makes people talk about it more.Why?Because that burst of excitement, that level of attention can turn the eyes of people that most likely werent interested in the first place, because it is human nature to know whats the hottest thing right now, to know what is happening just right outside the door.And that is something which most likely wouldnt have happened without said element of surprise, or some antecipation of sorts.

Honestly, Im really baffled on how there is someone that has already saw through several E3 not understand the power of surprise, the power of the unknown.

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DélioPT said: 
Miyamotoo said:

You missing point, what you or some other fan want is irrelevant, Nintendo strategy of focusing on short term is working, they dont need to focus on long term. Switch is selling great regardles PS4 and XB1, and actualy on pair with PS4 second year sales.

They dont even need to say that, from Switch launch we saw they dont showing hole years lineup on E3, of course there will be more 2018. announcements after E3 also (most of them will be 3rd party). Actually last years E3 they also said 6-9 months focus but reality was that 90% of showed games were this years games, but that dont mean they showed hole lineup in that time period, for instance games like Paladins and Fortnite are announced and released in same time period.

If focusing on the short term is so great and the only thing companies need, why doesn't everyone do the same? Specially after looking at Switch. Why is that?

Lol, point that everyone else are doing things in difrent way doesnt mean that Nintendos way is wrong way, I mean numbers (hardware and software sales) tells us without doubt that their strategy works for them, from your point you could also said that its wrong way Nintendo releasing hybrid console. From some reason you have hard time accepting that Nintendo is managing things different and that not everyone need to managing things in same way. 

Also for instance Sony also talked few months ago how they dont want any more to announce games so much in advance and want to have smaller amount of time between announcing and releasing game.



Lonely_Dolphin said:
Nautilus said:

Im reaching?lol

This is marketing 101.Even if you have a good product, marketing it the right way can help the boost of said product all the more.Im not saying that surprise is the only tactic there is, but it is one of the biggest you can pull.Creating expectation for an event and then exceding that expectation with something no one saw comming make that initial hype even bigger.Better yet, it makes people talk about it more.Why?Because that burst of excitement, that level of attention can turn the eyes of people that most likely werent interested in the first place, because it is human nature to know whats the hottest thing right now, to know what is happening just right outside the door.And that is something which most likely wouldnt have happened without said element of surprise, or some antecipation of sorts.

Honestly, Im really baffled on how there is someone that has already saw through several E3 not understand the power of surprise, the power of the unknown.

That's lots of words but no evidence to back them up, whereas I've provided just a few of many examples.

Now Im not giving examples?I mean, if you simply forget everything I wrote about game sales, or how I wrote a whole paragraph about how surprise can be essential and everything?*sigh*

Given that its pretty clear now that you are simply complaining for the purpose of complaining and not being able to admit that I have at the very least the possibility of being right, Ill declare that the argument is over and that I was right.This will be my last reply to you on this subject.Have a nice day!



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

My main complaint about tge show would be how they spent it all on Smash; great game, but I don't watch e3 for a single game deep-dive.

My main complkaint on a bigger level is that Nintendo seems to be letting up on the Switch gas pedal. They only have one platform to support, and this is what we get? I am not holding my breath for more 2018 announcements either, if they can't even finish a slagging 2D Yoshi game after 18 months.



Stefan.De.Machtige said:
Their E3 is now a big direct. Nintendo is ahead of the curve on this one since E3 is is losing significance.

Not for me.

Nintendo was in a terrible shape and decided to get out of E3, that's how I see it.

Other than that, e3 is still exciting and drive a huge amount of audience that I don't see in any other gaming event.



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When PS4 will hit 100m consoles sold: Before Christmas 2019

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couchmonkey said:
My main complaint about tge show would be how they spent it all on Smash; great game, but I don't watch e3 for a single game deep-dive.

My main complkaint on a bigger level is that Nintendo seems to be letting up on the Switch gas pedal. They only have one platform to support, and this is what we get? I am not holding my breath for more 2018 announcements either, if they can't even finish a slagging 2D Yoshi game after 18 months.

They had the same game plan last year outside of Metroid Prime 4 and Pokemon 2019, showing mostly games releasing the same year or early next year. Even showing Mario Odyssey as the main game for their E3 2017 lineup akin to Smash Bros. Headlong this year’s E3.

They later had a September direct AND a Xenoblade 2 November direct in 2017 so why are we assuming no more directs outside of maybe a Smash direct.



Nautilus said:
Lonely_Dolphin said:
That's lots of words but no evidence to back them up, whereas I've provided just a few of many examples.

Now Im not giving examples?I mean, if you simply forget everything I wrote about game sales, or how I wrote a whole paragraph about how surprise can be essential and everything?*sigh*

Given that its pretty clear now that you are simply complaining for the purpose of complaining and not being able to admit that I have at the very least the possibility of being right, Ill declare that the argument is over and that I was right.This will be my last reply to you on this subject.Have a nice day!

I can't forget what never happened. Just saying surprise is essential because you say so isn't an example, and the game sales you brought up were in relation to 3rd party significance, not surprise factor. Infact I even turned the Fortnite numbers against you.

Ha, looks like you know you can't beat cold hard evidence. It's really not that hard to just admit when you're wrong, I've done it plenty of times, but whatever, flee thinking you're right. Your whole point that the direct could of been better is irrelevant anyway.

wombat123 said:
Mcube said:

Except they blew the competition out of the water last year? 

Wasn't really hard to considering that, for the most part, Sony repeated their presentation from a year ago and Microsoft expected people to be impressed by a bunch of multiplats and 'console exclusive' games.

Sony repeated the presentation from last year this year aswell and I see all the sony fans applauding it this time. Nintendo´s last E3 was a really really good one you can´t deny that. 



Miyamotoo said:
DélioPT said: 

If focusing on the short term is so great and the only thing companies need, why doesn't everyone do the same? Specially after looking at Switch. Why is that?

Lol, point that everyone else are doing things in difrent way doesnt mean that Nintendos way is wrong way, I mean numbers (hardware and software sales) tells us without doubt that their strategy works for them, from your point you could also said that its wrong way Nintendo releasing hybrid console. From some reason you have hard time accepting that Nintendo is managing things different and that not everyone need to managing things in same way. 

Also for instance Sony also talked few months ago how they dont want any more to announce games so much in advance and want to have smaller amount of time between announcing and releasing game.

I never said that Nintendo needs to be like everyone else in every regard.
Still, you didn't answer my question: if that strategy is so awesome, why doesn't everyone copy Nintendo?
If we go by what you say, then it would give them the same results that they are having - or better.

Btw, is it their strategy that is making Switch a success or is it the games and concept that are making it a success and overshadowing the shortcomings of their strategy?



DélioPT said:
Miyamotoo said:

Lol, point that everyone else are doing things in difrent way doesnt mean that Nintendos way is wrong way, I mean numbers (hardware and software sales) tells us without doubt that their strategy works for them, from your point you could also said that its wrong way Nintendo releasing hybrid console. From some reason you have hard time accepting that Nintendo is managing things different and that not everyone need to managing things in same way. 

Also for instance Sony also talked few months ago how they dont want any more to announce games so much in advance and want to have smaller amount of time between announcing and releasing game.

I never said that Nintendo needs to be like everyone else in every regard.
Still, you didn't answer my question: if that strategy is so awesome, why doesn't everyone copy Nintendo?
If we go by what you say, then it would give them the same results that they are having - or better.

Btw, is it their strategy that is making Switch a success or is it the games and concept that are making it a success and overshadowing the shortcomings of their strategy?

You sound like that. I did answer you, for last time, if strategy works for someone doesn't mean that strategy will works for others too, point that everyone else are doing things in difrent way doesnt mean that Nintendos way is wrong way, I mean numbers (hardware and software sales) tells us without doubt that their strategy works for them, from your point you could also said that its wrong way Nintendo releasing hybrid console because other dont do that.

Also you ignored point that for instance Sony also talked few months ago how they dont want any more to announce games so much in advance and want to have smaller amount of time between announcing and releasing game, so Sony actualy is changing their strategies for time of announcing and releasing games.