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AlfredoTurkey said:
Sorry. I grew up on those consoles and own both. Atari 2600 is fun as shit but holy fuck, as you telling me Atari 2600 Astroids or Pitfall holds up better than SMB 3, Ninja Gaiden or Megaman 2?

That's insane.

neither aged well. the atari games probably have the simplicity going for them

 

the nes games look better. but the hardware didn't allow for great snappy controls which was later fixed in next gen.



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Uh, nope the only game still worth playing on the Atari 2600 is probably Breakout. While on the NES there are still over one hundred games still worth playing.



Can't agree with this at all. Some Atari games now you'll probably die about 5 times before you have a clue what you're meant to be looking at and which part of it you are controlling.

Even the earliest nes games are still playable by todays standards.

As others mentioned too, what is the Atari rival to smb3 or final fantasy? The system has nothing which is more than a few screens large, things like double dragon even advertised how many screens of play they featured.



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MasterThief said:
AlfredoTurkey said:
Sorry. I grew up on those consoles and own both. Atari 2600 is fun as shit but holy fuck, as you telling me Atari 2600 Astroids or Pitfall holds up better than SMB 3, Ninja Gaiden or Megaman 2?

That's insane.

neither aged well. the atari games probably have the simplicity going for them

 

the nes games look better. but the hardware didn't allow for great snappy controls which was later fixed in next gen.

What? I play my NES games on real hardware hooked up to a CRT and the controls are MORE snappy than modern games. There's almost no lag at all and they play like butter. 



That's a very strange opinion.



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Actuallymost 2600 games were already shitty almost thirty years ago, with a small minority of games actually worth playing. Today there are even less games worth playing.
Ports for the 2600 are often the worst versions around. There are some exceptions of course.

NES has a massive amount of still playworthy games like Life Force, Gradius, the Castlevanias, SMB 3 and many others. I'd even prefer the NES version of Pirates over almost every VCS game.

And the VCS 2600 was the first real console i ever played. Space Invaders and the pretty shitty Pacman port.



AlfredoTurkey said:
MasterThief said:

neither aged well. the atari games probably have the simplicity going for them

 

the nes games look better. but the hardware didn't allow for great snappy controls which was later fixed in next gen.

What? I play my NES games on real hardware hooked up to a CRT and the controls are MORE snappy than modern games. There's almost no lag at all and they play like butter. 

nah your glasses are rose tinted. literally almost any game that wasn't fast paced was pretty floaty and the controlls dragged.



I think this sort of ignores both the huuuuuuge amount of horrible shovelware the 2600 had and the fact that the NES got superior ports of almost all worthwhile 2600 games.

Yes, game design shifted towards longer, more complicated experiences during the 3rd generation, but the 2nd generation classics were still very much alive on the NES too.

IMO, with NES you get the best of both worlds. If you want the simple, pick up and play style design of the 2nd gen, you can just pick up those games on your NES and play them. But if you feel like playing something meatier, SMB 1,2,3, Zelda, Castlevania ect. are there for you.

And while the first RPGs on the NES have all been uniformly eclipsed by their successors on the SNES, the original Zelda has held up incredibly well and the genre as a whole really got it's start on consoles with the more powerful hardware of the NES.



MasterThief said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

What? I play my NES games on real hardware hooked up to a CRT and the controls are MORE snappy than modern games. There's almost no lag at all and they play like butter. 

nah your glasses are rose tinted. literally almost any game that wasn't fast paced was pretty floaty and the controlls dragged.

Good lord lol



Not even close.
3rd gen where were games started to be pretty good, anything before it is either just too simple or too messy if trying to do anything more complicated.
MS and NES all the way.
Just look at Fantasy Zone II and tell me anything on the 2600 aged better than that.