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Thanks for the post OP. I will watch it later. Its been really hard to find a good source of news today. What I do is read both sides and try to get to my own opinion. Unfortunately journalism nowadays are dominated by people just wanting to push their own views on the world. I believe it always has been like this, but definetelu got much worse in the past 20 years.
Ive been living in UK for the past 9 months and you have no idea how hard it is to have reliable and realistic news on brexit.



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Tulipanzo said:

Sure, I trust the guy complaining people are mean to Trump, Jordan Peterson, the Nazi pug lad and all the other clowns, to provide a thoughtful and evidence-based report on the rise of fake news 🙄

Edit: WOW, he is really mad about that nazi pug guy!

Have you ever watched a lecture of Jordan Peterson? This is a guy who teaches people how to get out of PTSD and depression and seriously discusses how horrors like Auschwitz can be stopped in the future. He also talks a lot about philosophy as well. How anyone can think of Peterson as "a clown" is beyond me, he probably helped way more people cope with the horrors of their lives than 99% of humanity and is often very a-political. 

Same with Dave Rubin (whom you didn't mention): I like Dave Rubin's YouTube show a lot and watched a lot of episodes - then, one day, a major german news publication (Der Spiegel) called him "one of the leaders of the fascist alt-right movement". What the hell? This guy talks to both sides and actually had a very heated discussion with a black civil rights activist who said black people aren't shot by police out of proportion - Dave did not believe him! He's also gay and jewish but somehow he is a fascist?

Sometimes, I don't understand the world anymore. I studied political science because politics always fascinated me but I've grown very tired of it because there are absolutely no standards anymore, both on the left and the right - someone disagrees with you? He must be an idiot, or a racist, or a fascist or an SJW. The problem is that democracy in the western world is currently threatened by both left-wing and right-wing extremists and both camps are getting larger. But none of it is taken seriously, because people are so quick to take sides and dismiss the arguments of the other side. Ok, personal rant over lol. 



Dark_Lord_2008 said:

Trump is the most far right leader ever elected under a democratic system. In Europe he would have been banned from running as a candidate. Trump is an autocratic leader and he is not compatible with a democracy. Trump has hired and fired countless advisers and when they advise him to do something he does not agree with, he fires them. Trump is not willing to listen to experts that know more than him on various issues. Trump is an autocrat and arrogantly believes he knows everything. The journalists have every right to call out Trump and question him on the his silly comments and bad decisions.

Dude.... No. 



Dark_Lord_2008 said:

Trump is the most far right leader ever elected under a democratic system. In Europe he would have been banned from running as a candidate. Trump is an autocratic leader and he is not compatible with a democracy. Trump has hired and fired countless advisers and when they advise him to do something he does not agree with, he fires them. Trump is not willing to listen to experts that know more than him on various issues. Trump is an autocrat and arrogantly believes he knows everything. The journalists have every right to call out Trump and question him on the his silly comments and bad decisions.

LOL, you're funny



Nothing to see here, move along

Tulipanzo said:
John2290 said:

So you believe a man making a joke should be fined and/or go to jail, which would have been an actual strong possibility had he not gotten support online. You sicken me. And not once was Tim ever on anyones side on those matters, he interviewed them and very rarely does his own opinion get interjected, if it does it is a slip. Maybe you should watch it and perhaps you should view Pools work and learn something about "the nazi pug guy" before making judgement. The fact that you call him the Nazi Pug guy, I'm also going to assume you know nothing of Jordan Peterson but the character assassination by the media, same with Trump. This video is pretty much directed at people like you. 

EDIT: Pool is about as far left as you can get without crossing into the new, crazy left. He was an occupy wall streeter, ffs.

Sorry I'm not objective enough to understand the intricacies of the Nazi Pug Lad™ case. 

Also shame to hear the media killed Lobster Daddy, what a loss.

 

Checking his video history, as well as, you know, the title of the video, tells me pretty conclusively: twat.

Your contribution pretty much clinches it 

Get out of hear ya damn troll. If you're not a troll I have to assume mental illness or an extremely bad day. Bring it somewhere else.

 

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Pemalite said:
John2290 said:

Please name a few. I would love to know of them.

Obviously you being in the United Kingdom... Would have different media outlets that I am obviously not privy to.

Actually Ireland and no, We can't trust our oen RTE or ore closet neighbour from satellite TV Sky or BBC ot that of that outlets sky brings to it's service like CNN, Fox, Msnmc. Etc etc etc. The closest thing the unfiltered news without bias ot opinion is Bloomberg that's all business news. 

I do have to give credit where credit is due though as BBC and Sky aren't nearly as bad CNN or FOX but that's like saying RT is better than CNN because it's critical of the US 24/7. All of them are cancer to what news and journalism ought to be. 



 

Dark_Lord_2008 said:

Trump is the most far right leader ever elected under a democratic system. In Europe he would have been banned from running as a candidate. Trump is an autocratic leader and he is not compatible with a democracy. Trump has hired and fired countless advisers and when they advise him to do something he does not agree with, he fires them. Trump is not willing to listen to experts that know more than him on various issues. Trump is an autocrat and arrogantly believes he knows everything. The journalists have every right to call out Trump and question him on the his silly comments and bad decisions.

...C'mon...ya'll have got to be trolling at this point. Dammit. I can't tell the trolls from people who are sincere anymore :( This is one flew over the kukoos nest type stuff. 

 

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SuaveSocialist said:

                                                                            "Fake News" is code for "Negative Press"

The fact is that the MSM is generally far more reliable, reputable, and based on the facts than fringe media.  

No. Simply no. Just because Trump says it and uses the term doesn't make it any less true. Take trump and out the equation and your feelings about him and it's still a rampant disease. Watch the video :)



 

John2290 said:
SuaveSocialist said:

                                                                            "Fake News" is code for "Negative Press"

The fact is that the MSM is generally far more reliable, reputable, and based on the facts than fringe media.  

No. Simply no.

Yes.  Simply yes.  The people whingeing about "Fake News" are typically whingeing about news they don't like--and it's typically because of negative press for Dear Leader.  Take your feelings out of the equation and you find that the MSM is  generally far more reliable, reputable, and based on the facts than fringe media.  



Dark_Lord_2008 said:

Trump is the most far right leader ever elected under a democratic system. In Europe he would have been banned from running as a candidate. Trump is an autocratic leader and he is not compatible with a democracy. Trump has hired and fired countless advisers and when they advise him to do something he does not agree with, he fires them. Trump is not willing to listen to experts that know more than him on various issues. Trump is an autocrat and arrogantly believes he knows everything. The journalists have every right to call out Trump and question him on the his silly comments and bad decisions.

Go take a few history classes. Thank me later.



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