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I don’t know how you can say this when the eshop is flooded with new games.

Every time I go the eshop, I am completely lost because there are so many new games popping up all the time.

I simply can’t keep up.



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Faelco said:
andisart said:

And the year before with only ONE game showing (Zelda)

Everyone agrees that the "Everyone agrees with my opinion so I'm right" argument without any tangible proof is useless.

Zelda literally won an award for e3 in 2016 and social media impact:

 

Is this "proof"? One game literally squashing everything else.

I expect even more for smash. As it's much bigger than Zelda with a very big hardcore fanbase.



DélioPT said:

Nothing that hasn't been discussed before...

Nintendo decided to frontload the Switch. Now, they are hoping ports and Indies - and Labo, too - pick up the slack.
Wrong strategy, if you ask me.

It's more a stop gap for the slow Spring period.  Starting in June, there's Mario Tennis Aces, Octopath Traveler, Yokai Watch 4, Yoshi, Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate (in the west), Smash Bros, Fire Emblem, and Pokemon.  That's more than a game a month.  And that's just exclusives.  And that's just significant exclusives at that, not counting smaller ones like Sushi Strikers or Travis Strikes Again.  It's a similar strategy to last year.  March, April, and May were thin on the ground.  But June to December was a blitz.  They look like they're gearing up for the same approach.  But this time with more third party presence to help out.  And then they have some significant DLC as well, the Octo Expansion and the Xenoblade 2 story pack.  

And all this before E3, they could have more for this year.



Mar1217 said:
spemanig said:

I genuinely don't understand how anyone can say this. Both GCN and Wii were better. Even Wii U was better at the beginning.

Literally, with what games is the Switch's multiplat support approaching SNES era? What how many big multiplat games aren't releasing later than everyone else? Where are the big, industry shifting 3rd party exclusives, because that's what much of the 3rd party support on the SNES was. Exclusives.

Switch can't even get COD. It's support isn't good. People are just stomaching it better because the breadcrumbs are more frequent.

OT: Yeah, I haven't touched mine since XB:2. Mario Tennis Aces will be fun soon if I can get my sister to play with me, but it's been a dry few months. What the world really needs is a release date for the new GOAT, SMTV.

You're finally excited about the game ? :D Thought you were cautious about it ...

Anywoo, SMT SJ Redux is pure joy !

I'm trying to be optimistic with SMTV now lol but really I'm still cautious.

I'm actually skipping Redux though because it's not dubbed, meaning there's no reason for me to buy it over the original I already own. It's not too much better graphically, I hate the new art and cutscenes, I hate that they're adding a new character and story to a game that was complete without it, and if I have to read text, I'd rather read without having to listen to another language I don't understand the whole time. Blows my mind that they made all these stupid concessions in the name of "accessibility" except for literally the only one that actually matters.



Well, this is new.

Read.

Lonely_Dolphin said:

While we haven't gotten a Mario Odyssey every other month as that's simply an unrealistic expectation, there are still games. Don't have such limiting criteria, try new things, broaden your horizons! If you can't do that though, then you're just gonna have to wait, but not for too much longer. Starting in June we'll see a consistent stream of new games. Mario Tennis, Octopath, Yoshi, Smash, Fire Emblem, n Pokemon.

This is the real problem. How many people here actually make attempt to play something out of your comfort zone? Stop waiting for name brands and take this opportunity to try something new.

I greatly recommended Ace of Seafood



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Xxain said:
Lonely_Dolphin said:

While we haven't gotten a Mario Odyssey every other month as that's simply an unrealistic expectation, there are still games. Don't have such limiting criteria, try new things, broaden your horizons! If you can't do that though, then you're just gonna have to wait, but not for too much longer. Starting in June we'll see a consistent stream of new games. Mario Tennis, Octopath, Yoshi, Smash, Fire Emblem, n Pokemon.

This is the real problem. How many people here actually make attempt to play something out of your comfort zone? Stop waiting for name brands and take this opportunity to try something new.

I greatly recommended Ace of Seafood


I just find it funny when people say there is nothing to play while having such a narrow criteria. No indies, no ports/remasters, no multiplayer games, no niche Japanese games, no casual titles, no multiplats, no E rated titles, no classic games, no cartoony games, no arcade-y games, no games under 80 metacritic.



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OdinHades said:
jardesonbarbosa said:

No, that's basically it. And don't count on E3, every year Nintendo's E3 is underwhelming. Nintendo Switch is a nice device, but it's just way behind the PS4 at this moment, maybe in 2 or 3 years they'll have 10 exclusive great games?

 

EDIT: Reading the thread, I get the feeling that Nintendo fans don't need that much to be satisfied, just throw a 3 year old port here a lame Kirby game there and everyone is happy. I love Nintendo, my first game was Super Mario World and until the PS3, I was a Nintendo-only gamer, but after playing games that are actually good, I can't be bothered to play a game like the new Kirby or to be excited about stuff like Mario Tennis. I feel like Nintendo also can't be bothered to release big AAA games or games from different genres because fans really are ok with anything they throw. I don't regret buying my Nintendo Switch, I mean, it's my Zelda machine and I love BOTW, but I feel totally different about Nintendo now that I do have the newest Nintendo console, but I also have PS4.

I know how you feel. I was in that same boat some years ago. Although I grew up with Nintendo, for many years I didn't care about the games anymore. It was mainly in the 7th gen. I got the Wii shortly after launch but barely even played with it. Instead I got the PS3 and thought that is the hot shit now. I loved my PS3. I thought I would never get back to Ninty. But in 2016 PlayStation games really got boring to me. After having played mainly on that platform for 8 years, everything felt like it was the same. I was underwhelmed by Uncharted 4, I got bored by The Last of Us and today I can't be bothered to even try out the new God of War. No, two years back, I had the urge to play something different. It didn't take long until Nintendo came to mind. They had all these interesting titles that couldn't be found anywhere else. So I got myself a 3DS and had a blast playing Super Mario, Animal Crossing and many more games. I was especially amazed by the perfection in gameplay. I completely forgot how well Nintendo does stuff like that and just two years ago I had no idea that they still achieve the high standards they had in the 90s. I was so blown away by the games that I got a Wii U shortly after and loved it. Got the switch at release and guess what, I play mostly on that system.

I still like my PS4 Pro and all, but it's mainly my VR machine right now. PSVR is awesome, even though it seriously lacks good and especially longer games. I still love it. But when it comes to flat games, I got hooked to Nintendo once again. There's so much stuff I missed and I can't wait for the new stuff that will come soon. Maybe you will get back to Ninty too after a few years. But don't mind it too much. Enjoy whatever platform you're playing on. Just know that you don't need low standards to like what Nintendo offers. It's just alwas a subjective matter. Which games are fun to you personally depend on so many factors. Some care about a good story and those folks probably won't get too happy with Nintendo. People like me care for great gameplay and great gameplay only. Nintendo has a shitload of stuff in that regard.

As for the topic at hand, how the hell do you all find enough time to play all the games coming? Seriously, I'm still not done with Breath of the Wild at this point! I haven't even touched Bayonetta 2, just rushed through the first one. Not through with Mario Odyssey and I bought Stardew Valley without having touched it. Then there are evergreens like Overcooked. That game is always a hell lot of fun when I play it with my son and wife. I don't know, there's no way I could ever catch up to all the games coming out, althoug I play with the switch 1-2 hours a day. Well, most days anyway. Sometimes it's just not possible because boring work and stuff. =P

I'm a bit different in that, while I started with Nintendo systems (NES, SNES, N64) I didn't switch to Playstation because I got bored of Nintendo's titles. It came down to the fact I'll take third parties over first party, because first party is rather limited in comparison. You have a few studios, vs dozens that can interest me with their games.
I usually don't even play Sony's first party games. After Uncharted 2 I got burned out on the series and haven't been interested in Uncharted 3 or 4. I play Gran Turismo once every other generation or so. (GT3 and GT5 so far) I didn't like the gameplay of The Last of Us, but the story was good so I watched a friend play it. I never played any God of War, and I didn't plan on playing this one either, until I heard/saw more about it. I will play it some day. But I have some games to finish first. (Persona 5, Nier: Automata, Monster Hunter: World, Yakuza 6 and Dragon Quest XI will be out in English by the time I finish those up I guess. And then there's Kingdom Hearts 3, and I still haven't played Final Fantasy XV either)

So the choice of my first console has always been simple for me. It's the one that has the most games I like. Which comes down to third parties because they have the advantage in numbers. NES and SNES were great in this regard. I was naive about N64 and learned my lesson for the future, in spite of having a great time with that system, no doubt. But I haven't really gone back to Nintendo again since then, aside from DS and 3DS. (And pretty much all my 3DS games are third party, except Fire Emblem and Zelda: A Link Between Worlds)
I always consider buying their home console, if "this and this" game comes out, and the cost of the system warrants the amount of games I'm interested in playing. So far I haven't picked one up, but I always hope this one will get me back in. And I think chances of me getting a Switch are higher than for any previous system. (Especially with the modding exploit, I can run emulators on it)

And if/when I do, I don't mind Nintendo churning out mainly the same type of games over and over, because I'll have a lot of other games to play.
And while I never got tired of Nintendo's games, I also never was the type of fan that played every single game they released. Hell no. Although for some of their franchises, like Mario Kart, mainline Zelda, Smash, I did. But I'm not playing the same Pokemon game every single generation with a minor adjustment to the characters and story. I get back into Pokemon every once in a while. I'm not interested in Kirby, Yoshi, Toad, Splatoon (though that game looks good if you're into that genre) the newer Star Fox games, all the Mario Party (those are fun on occasion) and sports games, etc.

But there are enough games there that I would like to play. Though if I was a Nintendo only owner, I would be bored right about now. But this is also why I don't buy new consoles on their first, or usually even second, year any more.

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BlackBeauty said:
Faelco said:

Everyone agrees that the "Everyone agrees with my opinion so I'm right" argument without any tangible proof is useless.

Zelda literally won an award for e3 in 2016 and social media impact:

 

Is this "proof"? One game literally squashing everything else.

I expect even more for smash. As it's much bigger than Zelda with a very big hardcore fanbase.

Hum.... And? Does "most talked about" means "Everyone agrees that it's the best"? No, it doesn't. Otherwise your "study" would mean that everyone agrees that Watch Dogs 2 is like 5 times better than Pokemon Sun and Moon. Sure.

And what about the fact that the study is based only on the duration of E3? Because, right now, you can see that the God of War trailer from E3 2016 has 19.6M views on Youtube with 352K likes, while the Zelda trailer from the same E3 has 13.6M views with 208K likes (for further comparison, the E3 Mario trailer has 28.9M views). So even with the out-of-topic analysis of "which game had the most impact on social media", Zelda doesn't win.  But like I said, even if it did, it wouldn't be a proof of "Everyone agrees that Nintendo won E3", because there is no relation between the two statements.

And as usual, I think that a lot of Nintendo fans are overestimating Smash. It's a big game with a very hardcore fanbase, sure. But even on the 3DS, it's "only" at 8M sales. The best selling game of the franchise is barely at 13M on the Wii. It's nowhere close to a Mario or Mario Kart with 36M for example. So it will sell very well, obviously, but it won't make this year bigger than a Mario, Mario Kart, Splatoon 2 or new generation Zelda year IMO. Pokemon could, if they handle the changes well and don't disappoint the fanbase.

Last edited by Faelco - on 19 May 2018

They dropped the ball by not having a true botw expansion pack - new areas with new characters etc. would keep a lot of people happy for a long time.



areason said:
Honestly why are you surprised? Given Nintendo's recent track record with third party sales, and the specs of the Switch It's pretty obvious that the Switch wasn't going to get good third party support.

And when it comes to Nintendo, it's impossible to have them pump out more then 2-3 big games a year.


Essentially this. Even in the Wii's heyday, it wasn't like Nintendo was getting SNES-level like support from 3rd parties. They have always been about quality over quantity since the N64 days but I think it was easier back then because games did not take nearly as long to make. I mean Rare pumped out what, 10 games for the N64 at least in it's relatively short lifespan. If they were still with Nintendo now we would not see 10 Rare games on the Switch in the same given timeframe. We would see 3 at most.