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Oculous GO, sub 200$ VR porn device.

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Oculus Go is just Gear VR on steroids and not true VR without positional tracking. That’s said it might surely help with mass adoption, which always is a good thing. Also fits quite well after the Ready Player One craze.

the new Oculus prototype they showed today seems much more interesting and exciting.



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If you take into account that AR apps are available on all iPhones from the 5S (2013) onwards, I guess you can already say that AR is mainstream. The number of apps seems that support it to be growing too.

If anyone makes VR/AR popular, my bet is on Apple. Btw, they're supposedly working on an extremely advanced independent VR set that mixes AR into it. Rumored to be released in 2020. That's a start...

Once companies are able to make VR smaller, and more importantly, lighter, on top of having and accessible price point, it might take over and become mainstream too.



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AR/VR is going to play a huge part in the furture of everything we do. The most successful companies will be designing and developing their future projects in AR/VR and making presentations in AR/VR. As mentioned in the OP, both will be used extensively in Education, Training, Manufacturing, and Medicine.

Games and entertainment are just the surface of what AR/VR brings to the table. We are just in the early days of this tech right now, but as it matures, it will help us make the next leap in technological growth.

I could also go on, and on about what this means for every industry, but at thiz point I am just enjoying the ride. It is like technology has hit the restart button, and we get to enjoy decades of massive leaps in a new field. Extremely exciting times.



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I've been using Oculus Go since it was just called Gear VR. I cannot really imagine that it's much better for that price. But I might consider getting it so I have something separate from my phone.

edit: I bought it now from Amazon. Let's see how good it is.

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John2290 said:
vivster said:

I've been using Oculus Go since it was just called Gear VR. I cannot really imagine that it's much better for that price. But I might consider getting it so I have something separate from my phone.

edit: I bought it now from Amazon. Let's see how good it is.

Give us a headsup when you get your delivery. You tried PsVR/oculus/vive so you can give us a baseline to compare it off of? I think it'll be a wise purchase for what it is, certainly not going to be good for gaming beside the odd few games like Ultra wings, rangi and hopefully something along the lines of cool paintR. Daydream will at very least have good apps and media and I think that's where this thing'll will shine. Watching Netflix in 5.1 surround sound laying in bed, sitting on a bus or simply while someone else is hogging whatever TV should be worth the price alone. I've always found using my phone to be a subpar experience however the headset should be a bonus over the TV and much more comfortable than holding your phone. There's also the 5k czeck porn videos I hear this thing should be able to run but I can't get comfirmation on how well they run anywhere. 

Anyway, 5,1 virtual surround sound simulator with no drift at 200 quid. Damn, bargin. Looks like a comfortable device too albeit suffers from the strap design. I'm actually pretty excited for this device even though i know its shortcomings.

I've only ever tried Gear VR and it was passable. I never tried tethered VR because it's absolutely useless for watching porn. I'm waiting for a killer app for PC and super premium HMDs before I get into that. So I will only be able to tell you about the visual quality compared to the GearVR with a Galaxy S9. According to reviews it should be about as good as the Rift.

We'll see on Monday.



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John2290 said:
vivster said:

I've only ever tried Gear VR and it was passable. I never tried tethered VR because it's absolutely useless for watching porn. I'm waiting for a killer app for PC and super premium HMDs before I get into that. So I will only be able to tell you about the visual quality compared to the GearVR with a Galaxy S9. According to reviews it should be about as good as the Rift.

We'll see on Monday.

Try ultra wings on it Moday and I'd bet you'll wanna dip your toes into gaming/high end VR. 

That's not the experience I'm looking for in a VR game. I already tried a lot of VR games and it's fine. I need an immersive RPG in an open world. Something like Skyrim VR but with an actually good game. So far nothing like that exists, nor super premium VR headsets, nor GPUs that could manage the load. So I will have to wait. I don't need VR gaming in my life right now, but I will immediately jump on it once it's ready.



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John2290 said:
vivster said:

I've been using Oculus Go since it was just called Gear VR. I cannot really imagine that it's much better for that price. But I might consider getting it so I have something separate from my phone.

edit: I bought it now from Amazon. Let's see how good it is.

Give us a headsup when you get your delivery. You tried PsVR/oculus/vive so you can give us a baseline to compare it off of? I think it'll be a wise purchase for what it is, certainly not going to be good for gaming beside the odd few games like Ultra wings, rangi and hopefully something along the lines of cool paintR. Daydream will at very least have good apps and media and I think that's where this thing'll will shine. Watching Netflix in 5.1 surround sound laying in bed, sitting on a bus or simply while someone else is hogging whatever TV should be worth the price alone. I've always found using my phone to be a subpar experience however the headset should be a bonus over the TV and much more comfortable than holding your phone. There's also the 5k czeck porn videos I hear this thing should be able to run but I can't get comfirmation on how well they run anywhere. 

Anyway, 5,1 virtual surround sound simulator with no drift at 200 quid. Damn, bargin. Looks like a comfortable device too albeit suffers from the strap design. I'm actually pretty excited for this device even though i know its shortcomings.

The problem, for me at least, is that watching movies in crap resolution is not enjoyable.  So, until I can have something that is on par with...lets say a 720p television screen, I will not be watching movies and TV in VR.  

With that said, my single best VR experience was a live boxing match.  I watched it a few years ago on my GearVR.  Because boxing takes place in a very small space, the lack of resolution wasn't as bad as it was for watching live golf (impossible) or even an NBA game (frustrating, but passable).  IMO, sports in VR has a ton of potential.  Theoretically, you can sit courtside, behind home plate, on the 50 yard line, or what have you, without ever leaving home.  I'm excited to see how this side of it develops.  



Eventually VR arcades might become popular thing...though they require a lot of space compared to arcades of the past, so I don't see them ever being as big of a bussiness as in golden age of arcades.
Once reasonably priced, non-tethered, ~210/130 degrees FOV (like StarVR), with high resolution displays, eye tracking and foveated rendering, headsets arrive, I guess VR might hit mainstream big time.



John2290 said:
VAMatt said:

The problem, for me at least, is that watching movies in crap resolution is not enjoyable.  So, until I can have something that is on par with...lets say a 720p television screen, I will not be watching movies and TV in VR.  

With that said, my single best VR experience was a live boxing match.  I watched it a few years ago on my GearVR.  Because boxing takes place in a very small space, the lack of resolution wasn't as bad as it was for watching live golf (impossible) or even an NBA game (frustrating, but passable).  IMO, sports in VR has a ton of potential.  Theoretically, you can sit courtside, behind home plate, on the 50 yard line, or what have you, without ever leaving home.  I'm excited to see how this side of it develops.  

Actually 1080p looks fantastic in the PSVR headset, it's the screendoor effect that gives you the impression of less resolution. For me, the 15 foot cinema screen right in front of you trumps that negative, it actually makes you feel like you're at the cinema also. However I do agree partly that the screen door effect needs to be reduced for media consumption in VR but saying it's worse than 720 on your phone...nah man. It's on par with 720p easily however I've never had any meaningful time hands on with anything less than PSVR which I hear the oculus GO gives a run for it's money in this department.

You're obviously correct that its not actually a resolution issue.  But, IMO the screen door effect makes the perceived resolution worse than 1980's SD television.  It is not even remotely close to the quality of a 720p TV.  To get a good feel for how far it still has to come, try watching golf in VR.  You cannot even see the ball.  I was able to see the golf ball on TV in the 80s.  



VAMatt said:
John2290 said:

Actually 1080p looks fantastic in the PSVR headset, it's the screendoor effect that gives you the impression of less resolution. For me, the 15 foot cinema screen right in front of you trumps that negative, it actually makes you feel like you're at the cinema also. However I do agree partly that the screen door effect needs to be reduced for media consumption in VR but saying it's worse than 720 on your phone...nah man. It's on par with 720p easily however I've never had any meaningful time hands on with anything less than PSVR which I hear the oculus GO gives a run for it's money in this department.

You're obviously correct that its not actually a resolution issue.  But, IMO the screen door effect makes the perceived resolution worse than 1980's SD television.  It is not even remotely close to the quality of a 720p TV.  To get a good feel for how far it still has to come, try watching golf in VR.  You cannot even see the ball.  I was able to see the golf ball on TV in the 80s.  

Regarding the screen door effect, I'll note that PSVR is much better than GearVR.  Rift and Vive are a bit better than PSVR.  I've not tried the golf test on any of those.  But, I've been playing with Rift since DK2, and have used the retail versions of all of them.  The screen door effect has always been, and seems likely to continue to be, for a very long time, a significant problem for me.  

This reminds me though.... I played Minecraft in VR, and thought it looked great.  The fact that it doesn't depend on ultra-modern graphics probably had a lot to do with that.