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I personally think it's okay to pirate a game as long as it isn't being sold officially anymore (Especially licensed games that'll never get a re-release).

For example, pirating Mario Sunshine is fine because Nintendo isn't selling that game anymore, but pirating Luigi's Mansion or Super Mario World is wrong because the former is getting a 3DS remake and the latter is on Virtual Console.

Sure, buying a used copy of an old game is the correct way to go, but if the company that made the game isn't getting anything from it anymore, does it even matter at that point if you bought it or not?

Last edited by Vini256 - on 01 April 2018

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I think its perfectly fine to pirate a game. I mean Microsoft just did it

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No, it's never OK to pirate games in the vast majority of the cases ...

From a legal standpoint we have copyright laws for a reason so that the copyright holder has the exclusive potential to monetize their ownership of content. Just because the copyright holder does not have new copies for sale does not give one the excuse from one withholding purchase of a valid used copy or accessing it from a different format either ...

The only ethical aspect to piracy is a means to gain access to content that can't be legally obtained anymore or that there is not valid copies left in circulation ...



The only times I'd say it's okay to pirate a game is if you cannot legitimately get said game, or the only available options are overly expensive. Such examples of the 2nd would be playing Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance, which hasn't gotten a re-release since it's Gamecube release and a used copy costs over 100 dollars. As for the 1st one, I suppose it's not available in your region...? I'm not all that familiar with that example...



 

              

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Cloudman said:
The only times I'd say it's okay to pirate a game is if you cannot legitimately get said game, or the only available options are overly expensive. Such examples of the 2nd would be playing Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance, which hasn't gotten a re-release since it's Gamecube release and a used copy costs over 100 dollars. As for the 1st one, I suppose it's not available in your region...? I'm not all that familiar with that example...

I'll give you one: Nintendo doesn't sell their games/consoles officially in Brazil, would you be fine with pirating in that case if you lived here?

I personally don't think it's okay since I can easily get a Switch from the grey market (Which I did) and "import" the games by buying them digitally through the US eShop, but I also wouldn't judge someone who would rather pirate than jump through hoops just to be able to play those games.



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Legally, no. Morally, it depends. I think if you pirate a game that is available to buy in store or online, then that is just wrong. If it happens to be a game that has been out of print for a long time and the publisher either no longer exists or has no interest in re-releasing the game, then I see nothing wrong with it because at that point, the copyright holder is refusing to take your money. In fact, I think pirating a game in such might potentially get the publisher to consider releasing the game again since they would have proof that there's a demand for it.

Some will (and have) brought up used games, asking how that is morally justified compared to pirating. First of all, unlike pirating, the person selling the used game is selling their own property. They paid for it, so now they have every right to do with it as they please just as long as they're not violating the terms of service of the software (in other words, pirating it). Second, when you have an establishment like GameStop, they still keep inventory of what they sell. So if a game from EA is being sold second hand, EA may not be getting money from it, but if the game sells well enough, GameStop will order more copies of that game from EA. This is because they can't simply rely on the consumer to return the game, but they know they can get more from EA with a simple order. Getting more copies of the game from EA might also mean potentially more second hand sales for GameStop. So in a way, a publisher can make money from second hand sales just based on demand, but maybe not as much as GameStop.



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Vini256 said:
Cloudman said:
The only times I'd say it's okay to pirate a game is if you cannot legitimately get said game, or the only available options are overly expensive. Such examples of the 2nd would be playing Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance, which hasn't gotten a re-release since it's Gamecube release and a used copy costs over 100 dollars. As for the 1st one, I suppose it's not available in your region...? I'm not all that familiar with that example...

I'll give you one: Nintendo doesn't sell their games/consoles officially in Brazil, would you be fine with pirating in that case if you lived here?

I personally don't think it's okay since I can easily get a Switch from the grey market (Which I did) and "import" the games by buying them digitally through the US eShop, but I also wouldn't judge someone who would rather pirate than jump through hoops just to be able to play those games.

Oh, that is a good example. If you can get the console, then you could still buy the games via online. So I guess I'd say pirating would not be okay in this case, since they're available via the eshop?



 

              

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Cloudman said:

Oh, that is a good example. If you can get the console, then you could still buy the games via online. So I guess I'd say pirating would not be okay in this case, since they're available via the eshop?

I'm 50/50 on this actually. You can buy the games on the eShop, but since it's the US one you're technically still buying from another region instead of your own (Because it's not supported), not to mention that you'll need an international credit card to do that and will also pay a lot more for the game since you're converting from Brazilian Real to US Dollar. I personally just buy the games whenever possible, not really a fan of pirating if I can avoid it, but again, I wouldn't judge someone who'd rather pirate because you can't get those games officially over here.



Vini256 said:
Cloudman said:

Oh, that is a good example. If you can get the console, then you could still buy the games via online. So I guess I'd say pirating would not be okay in this case, since they're available via the eshop?

I'm 50/50 on this actually. You can buy the games on the eShop, but since it's the US one you're technically still buying from another region instead of your own (Because it's not supported), not to mention that you'll need an international credit card to do that and will also pay a lot more for the game since you're converting from Brazilian Real to US Dollar. I personally just buy the games whenever possible, not really a fan of pirating if I can avoid it, but again, I wouldn't judge someone who'd rather pirate because you can't get those games officially over here.

I see what you mean. If buying the games ends up being too expensive and using an international card is too much of a hassle, then I'd understand those who would pirate. It sounds somewhat difficult to get Nintendo games over there.



 

              

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osed125 said:

Contrary to what some people think, piracy can do some good. I know it because it happened to me.

I came from a low-middle class family, the only way I could really play game was thanks to piracy; I saved a ton of money to buy the console and 90% of my games were pirated (some were original).

But thanks to that I played so many great games that I otherwise would to have not played, and now that I'm an adult with a good income, I can buy them no problem.

Just to give a few examples:
1- Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn, played pirated on the Wii; bought Awakening and Fates on the 3DS
2- Bioshock 1 and 2, pirated on PC; bought Infinite on PC when it came out
3- Monster Hunter Tri, pirated on the Wii; bought Monster Hunter 4 on the 3DS and recently World on PS4
4- 9 hours 9 persons 9 doors, emulated on DS; bought Virtue's Last Reward and Zero Time Dilemma on 3DS
5- Mass Effect 1 and 2, pirated on PC; bought Mass Effect 3 on PC

These are honestly just a few and the ones that immediately come to mind.

So to answer the OP question, yes I do think is okay to pirate games; maybe not everyone is like me and they continue to pirate, but I firmly believe piracy can work with some people.

This just like saying stealing can do some good. I was able to buy a drug for my daughter that cured her after i robbed a small store on the side of the road. Shes alive today because of that atore I robbed.

See how that works?

Now what no one says, or the side yoi do not hear, ia how because I robbed a store the store owner wasnt able to pay the medical bill for his son and the son died.

Lets call a spade a spade. Piracy is wrong. It sucks not having the monwy or means to get or play all the games we want, but thats life.

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Intrinsic said:
No its not.

Not that I have anything against piracy, but its that with games sales os the only revenue stream they have. You pirate them, and you take that away.

They get just as much money from people buying used copies of a game as they do from people pirating games.

The more i read your posts the more I think you know very little of wjat you talk about. You are one of the confidently wrong types. So sure of what you are saying (even if its wrong) that people will just agree with you.

Who is this 'they' that gets money from used game sales? Have yoi bewn living under a rocck this past 20yrs? As far as the ga,es industry goes, used game sales is also bad. But its better by far than piracy because in most cases the people selling the games just out that money towards the purchase of other new games.