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Seventizz said:
Zones said:

I fully got it. You became paranoid over a common customer support comment.

You're simply just assuming that you got a strike and you will be SoL if you were to be hacked again. There's no evidence, in your case (based on your story), to prove otherwise. Personally speaking, I have been given multiple 'one time gesture' refunds from various companies.

Oh and since PS was not significant to you either way, why come here and share a rant about how you became paranoid over nothing? What's the relevance between your story and the topic in question exactly?

Huh?  My issue is completely related to the thread.  Why are you arguing with me?

Your 'issue' is most certainly not relevant to this topic.

The topic asks "what is Sony's biggest mistake" with the content of the topic clearly giving examples of business decisions Sony made that in a hindsight were poor business decisions to Sony.

Your unnecessary rant would probably be relevant on a topic titled 'what made you dislike/hate Sony?'.

As it stands, you shared an anecdotal story that absolutely had nothing to do with the topic.

Admit it and move on.



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Qwark said:
The PS3 is arguably the biggest fail in gaming history. It evaporated all PS2 profits.

Lauch ps3, yeah, they lost lots of money. Most likely playstation lowest moment ever, but after ps3 slim sony managed to make profit and started to regain market and, in the end, ps3 managed to put sony in a great place ( even before ps4 sony was the one selling more consoles, at the end of wii life to this moment.)

Sony lost money on ps3, fact, but money isn't everything. Ps3 was a console whit amazing sales and games, it manage to recover from the "wrost console" and " sony is doomed" and sold over 80M ( never before a console managed to make such recovery, it surpassed x360 sales and managed to hit 80% of wii sales). it's far from the biggest fail ever, I even dare to say it did much better than many nintendo consoles and the OG xbox. 

 

About sony greatest mistake...   start a pissing contest with samsung in the electronics market, especially in the TVs and cell phones market. They never had a chance, samsung was sponsored by the korean government, fighting with samsung cost millions for sony.

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Seventizz said:
pokoko said:

Not to mention that it's an even bigger problem with Xbox, as Microsoft passwords can be quite valuable because accounts are often tied to other things outside video-gaming.  Crackers and scammers go after them hard.  Microsoft outsources basic Xbox customer service, like most other companies, and thieves use some damn sophisticated techniques.  If security is a "huge red flag" then they should probably drop Xbox, too.

Source--I used to work with Xbox.

Ive been with XBL for over 13 years and I’ve never been hacked.  Luck?  Possibly.  But I do know they have less hacking issues than PSN.  I learned a lot when I was hacked by psn - they have some serious security issues, or at least they did when I did my research.

 

ironically, I worked for SCEA too at one point in time lol.

Source?

Microsoft accounts have an absolute ton of interface points and users and it's WAY more popular of a target.  They're not even in the same league in that regard.  

I'm not sure how you were hacked by PSN, however.  



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Zones said:
Seventizz said:

Huh?  My issue is completely related to the thread.  Why are you arguing with me?

Your 'issue' is most certainly not relevant to this topic.

The topic asks "what is Sony's biggest mistake" with the content of the topic clearly giving examples of business decisions Sony made that in a hindsight were poor business decisions to Sony.

Your unnecessary rant would probably be relevant on a topic titled 'what made you dislike/hate Sony?'.

As it stands, you shared an anecdotal story that absolutely had nothing to do with the topic.

Admit it and move on.

The topic is ‘sony’s biggest mistake’ and I brought up PSN which I have had issue with.  I don’t know how I could be more on topic than that.  Others have brought it up too.  Also, I didn’t say I hate them - you got defensive and just assumed it’s where I was going.



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Manlytears said:
Qwark said:
The PS3 is arguably the biggest fail in gaming history. It evaporated all PS2 profits.

Lauch ps3, yeah, they lost lots of money. Most likely playstation lowest moment ever, but after ps3 slim sony managed to make profit and started to regain market and, in the end, ps3 managed to put sony in a great place ( even before ps4 sony was the one selling more consoles, at the end of wii life to this moment.)

Sony lost money on ps3, fact, but money isn't everything. Ps3 was a console whit amazing sales and games, it manage to recover from the "wrost console" and " sony is doomed" and sold over 80M ( never before a console managed to make such recovery, it surpassed x360 sales and managed to hit 80% of wii sales). it's far from the biggest fail ever, I even dare to say it did much better than many nintendo consoles and the OG xbox. 

 

About sony greatest mistake...   start a pissing contest with samsung in the electronics market, especially in the TVs and cell phones market. They never had a chance, samsung was sponsored by the korean government, fighting with samsung cost millions for sony.

In the end Sony only made a small profit on the PS3 from 2010 and onward. Yet the PS3 ended with a massive net loss over the course of the generation.

Sony never really turned the PS3 profitable it just had a few years with profit. But it actually put the PS brand as a whole back at zero when you look at profit.



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Not actually catering to the handheld market when they were going with handhelds.
A lot of people bought a psp, but mostly for PMP purposes. That market evaporated when smartphones started rolling out around 2010. The psp only had games because it was popular and not the other way round... which led to vita failure. The vita mem card issue was just the final nail.



pokoko said:
Seventizz said:

Ive been with XBL for over 13 years and I’ve never been hacked.  Luck?  Possibly.  But I do know they have less hacking issues than PSN.  I learned a lot when I was hacked by psn - they have some serious security issues, or at least they did when I did my research.

 

ironically, I worked for SCEA too at one point in time lol.

Source?

Microsoft accounts have an absolute ton of interface points and users and it's WAY more popular of a target.  They're not even in the same league in that regard.  

I'm not sure how you were hacked by PSN, however.  

Source for what?  It was my impression when I did my research.  I clearly state that.

I'm not sure how I was hacked either.  I discovered there were a few methods when I looked into it - but I couldn’t pinpoint what specifically happened.  Sony’s customer service didn’t know either.  You’d think they could find out who it was signing in under my account - but they said they couldn’t.  Either way I’m over it.  PSN is not something I have to deal with ever again.



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That being said, I think Sony’s biggest mistake was trying to build a console around an architecture that had never been used in game development before, without beta testing it for themselves. The PS3 launch was clearly rushed, and it felt like it took Sony waaaaaay too long to finally get the ball rolling, even with their own first party. I loved PS3, especially after it’s first couple years, but my god was the APOCALYPS3 real in those early years.



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