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Why don't you have an Xbox?

Not interested in the games 67 29.91%
 
Don't like the console 4 1.79%
 
Don't like the controller 1 0.45%
 
Don't like MS 20 8.93%
 
I have a gaming PC 25 11.16%
 
No money for 2nd/3rd console 12 5.36%
 
All of the above 11 4.91%
 
Mixture of the above 44 19.64%
 
Xbox Owner seeing the results 40 17.86%
 
Total:224
Kaneman! said:
Alara317 said:
- I have to buy batteries for the controller, which gets expensive

Wait, seriously?

yeah! you CAN buy battery packs, but here in Canada the controllers cost 80 bucks PLUS the 20-30 for the battery pack...

PS4 controllers cost 75 and no battery pack

Switch Pro controllers cost 90, also no need for batteries. 



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Alara317 said:
Kaneman! said:

Wait, seriously?

yeah! you CAN buy battery packs, but here in Canada the controllers cost 80 bucks PLUS the 20-30 for the battery pack...

PS4 controllers cost 75 and no battery pack

Switch Pro controllers cost 90, also no need for batteries. 

So in other words.. because of $20 I wont by a Xbox. Gotcha.

Its a one time purchase and I am still using my battery pack since launch.



Azzanation said:
Alara317 said:

yeah! you CAN buy battery packs, but here in Canada the controllers cost 80 bucks PLUS the 20-30 for the battery pack...

PS4 controllers cost 75 and no battery pack

Switch Pro controllers cost 90, also no need for batteries. 

So in other words.. because of $20 I wont by a Xbox. Gotcha.

Its a one time purchase and I am still using my battery pack since launch.

Are you being dense on purpose? That's not the ONLY reason, it's one of many. No games, what games it does have are on other systems, UI is not appealing,  it tanks my internet every time I use it, the network seems shoddy as hell for wi-fi, AND the controllers need batteries or battery packs. 

They need to get with the times. PS4 controllers have battery packs already in them, as do PS3 controllers, WiiU controllers, and Switch controllers. The fact that Microsoft still either requires AA batteries or a 30 dollar battery pack is laughable to me, and sort of the cherry on the cake. 

Don't try to misrepresent my points to make my argument look absurd. That's called a strawman fallacy. 



Alara317 said:
Azzanation said:

So in other words.. because of $20 I wont by a Xbox. Gotcha.

Its a one time purchase and I am still using my battery pack since launch.

Are you being dense on purpose? That's not the ONLY reason, it's one of many. No games, what games it does have are on other systems, UI is not appealing,  it tanks my internet every time I use it, the network seems shoddy as hell for wi-fi, AND the controllers need batteries or battery packs. 

They need to get with the times. PS4 controllers have battery packs already in them, as do PS3 controllers, WiiU controllers, and Switch controllers. The fact that Microsoft still either requires AA batteries or a 30 dollar battery pack is laughable to me, and sort of the cherry on the cake. 

Don't try to misrepresent my points to make my argument look absurd. That's called a strawman fallacy. 

Your reasons you posted previously 

My Reponses are underlined to the bold.

- The Games on that system don't catch my eye (No exclusives) < No exclusives? Sunset, Rare's Replay, Halo 5 just to name a few. Your comment is false.

 - Multiplatform games are better on PS4 (Base model, anyway) < Xbox One X... so most games don't look better on PS4. Get an X, Problem solved.

 - All the games I CAN get on Xbox I can also get on PC < Again... Sunset, Rare's Replay, Halo 5 etc. Your comment is false

 - I have a PS4, Switch, and a low-end PC to cover me < PC does not play all Xbox and BC titles.

 - The system crashes my internet any time I use it < Strange, sounds like a internet issue or a console fault. Get that checked before complaining about it.

 - Downloads take forever on the system, crippling the internet for hours at a time < Sounds like a internet problem or a console fault. Get that checked before complaining about it..

- I have to buy batteries for the controller, which gets expensive < $20 for a battery pack that's a once off purchase and isn't necessary? Gotcha

- Microsoft pissed me off with their DRM and Launch and Kinect < You sound upset

- Seriously, there are virtually no games on it and none coming out that interest me other than Sea of Thieves < Xbox One has the largest library of games thanks to the Backwards compatibly and many more on their way. Your comment is false.

 

I question if you even own an Xbox actually.

 

I’ll be waiting for your response.

Last edited by Azzanation - on 10 March 2018

Azzanation said:
Alara317 said:

Are you being dense on purpose? That's not the ONLY reason, it's one of many. No games, what games it does have are on other systems, UI is not appealing,  it tanks my internet every time I use it, the network seems shoddy as hell for wi-fi, AND the controllers need batteries or battery packs. 

They need to get with the times. PS4 controllers have battery packs already in them, as do PS3 controllers, WiiU controllers, and Switch controllers. The fact that Microsoft still either requires AA batteries or a 30 dollar battery pack is laughable to me, and sort of the cherry on the cake. 

Don't try to misrepresent my points to make my argument look absurd. That's called a strawman fallacy. 

Your reasons you posted previously 

My Reponses are underlined to the bold.

- The Games on that system don't catch my eye (No exclusives) < No exclusives? Sunset, Rare's Replay, Halo 5 just to name a few. Your comment is false.

 - Multiplatform games are better on PS4 (Base model, anyway) < Xbox One X... so most games don't look better on PS4. Get an X, Problem solved.

 - All the games I CAN get on Xbox I can also get on PC < Again... Sunset, Rare's Replay, Halo 5 etc. Your comment is false

 - I have a PS4, Switch, and a low-end PC to cover me < PC does not play all Xbox and BC titles.

 - The system crashes my internet any time I use it < Strange, sounds like a internet issue or a console fault. Get that checked before complaining about it.

 - Downloads take forever on the system, crippling the internet for hours at a time < Sounds like a internet problem or a console fault. Get that checked before complaining about it..

- I have to buy batteries for the controller, which gets expensive < $20 for a battery pack that's a once off purchase and isn't necessary? Gotcha

- Microsoft pissed me off with their DRM and Launch and Kinect < You sound upset

- Seriously, there are virtually no games on it and none coming out that interest me other than Sea of Thieves < Xbox One has the largest library of games thanks to the Backwards compatibly and many more on their way. Your comment is false.

  

I question if you even own an Xbox actually.

 

I’ll be waiting for your response.

So you're the type to take things literally, I see. Turns out I have to educate you in internetiquette. 

When I say 'no exclusives', it doesn't mean 'it has literally no exclusives', it means 'it has so few exclusives that it might as well have none' or 'it has no exclusives that interest me' or 'it has no exclusives going forward due to the Microsoft play anywhere thing with windows 10'. When someone says a console has no exclusives, the phrase isn't meant to be taken literally. How have you survived on the internet this long not knowing or understanding this? your blood pressure must be through the roof arguing with people about technicalities when the actual meaning of the phrase 'no exclusives' means 'literally no exclusives' to your brain. 

Multiplatform titles ARE better on the PS4. Or at least the base model. The OG PS4 vs OG Xbox One has better GDDR Ram and a marginally higher processing power. Therefore, the BASE MODEL comparison has PS4 winning. Plus, the userbase is higher. If you had read the WHOLE statement instead of stopping at the first form of punctuation, you would have seen clearly that I was not talking about PS4 Pro or Xbox One X, because I don't have the sort of hardware setup to make use of those systems. And if I was going to buy the higher powered one, see point 1 to see that Xbox One has fewer quality exclusives that attract my attention, and the few it does have are on PC or will be going forward. 

You listed three games. Again, you're taking the statements literally. Refer to comment 1 for the meaning behind that. And going forward, all games on Xbox are said to be on PC as well. Old games that came out years ago don't help your argument. Again, three games doesn't make a counterargument, because the term 'has no games' or 'has no exclusives' or 'has none that aren't also on PC' is clearly not meant to be taken literally, but functionally or virtually. for all intents and purposes the Xbox has no exclusives, and the few it has are either uninteresting or not enough to make me buy a console. 

Our internet is not the problem. In our household, we have two Xbox Ones, two PS4s, two Switches, and three desktop computers, all hooked up to the internet. We can have both switches, both PS4's, and all PCs connected to our wifi, and the internet works flawlessly. If it's just me, home alone, using JUST my Xbox One and PC, the internet gets tanked. Any time my roommate plays any Xbox One games online, the internet gets tanked. Any time he downloads games on the Xbox, the internet gets tanked. Every time I install firmware or software updates on my Xbox One, it crashed the internet. The only thing that doesn't crash the internet is netflix. Again, we can have two switches, two PS4's, and three PCs all hooked up, torrenting, streaming, and playing games, and the internet is fine. As soon as either of the Xbox consoles connects to the internet for any gaming, the internet crashes (or goes so slow that it's like being back on 56k modems.) When an Xbox turns on, it takes ALL our bandwidth...and still somehow goes slower than my PS4. 

In a controlled environment, I have my Xbox One and PS4 both hooked up wirelessly to our internet. The two are side by side, and both have the premium online services. Ps4 takes 2 hours to download a 9.8gb update and I can still browse and watch Youtube. Xbox One took 13 hours to download a 4 gig update and it crashed the internet. Whether there's something wrong with our internet that doesn't like Xbox or not, the fact is that the Xbox's internet connectivity is NOT working properly. 

Back to the batteries. You're misrepresenting the point. I didn't think I had to clarify the intricate details.  So here we go. 

PS4 controller cost is 74.99. It comes with an internal battery that lasts for days on a single charge. No extra cost.
Switch pro controller cost is 89.99. It comes with an internal battery that last for up to a week on a single charge. 

Both of these are a one time cost. I pay them, and I don't have to pay for them again. The Switch is more expensive of the two, but let me carry on.

Xbox One controller cost is 79.99. It does not come with a battery pack, therefore there will be extra costs. Either A - I have to pay another 29.99 to get a battery pack as a one time expense (thus bringing the cost of a single controller to $109.98), or I have to pay to get batteries every few months, which brings up the cost of the controller to up to 200 over the cost of its lifetime. 

You can bemoan my gripes all you want, but the controller either costs considerably more upfront, or costs more upfront and greatly more over the course of its lifetime, thus making it a lesser value than a PS4 controller. And, to add extra insult that I didn't even bring up, Xbox has no 'added features', while the Ps4 has the touch pad and the Switch has the amiibo functionality. You may not value those things, but I do. In the end, the controller is the most expensive for the least value, and I neither wish to buy batteries or a battery pack. Therefore, if I have a choice, I chose the better value, hence another category the Xbox One has less value to me and therefore gets less play time out of me. 

Brand image matters. Xbox One messed up bad with the online requirements at E3 2013. I was upset, now I just find it funny. Microsoft tried to make huge leaps to take freedom away from players, then backpedaled when it was clear that the players wanted nothing to do with it. You shouldn't forget that sort of stuff, just like you shouldn't forget what EA and Activison have done with lootboxes, even if they stop doing lootboxes. Just like you shouldn't forget that sony tried to charge 600 dollars for a Ps3. What a company TRIED to do but failed should show what they truly want and what they would do if they could get away from it. However, when Sony tried charging 600 dollars for the PS3, they were coming off the two most successful home consoles of all time, back to back. PS1 sold 102 million, PS2 sold 157 million. No other home consoles have beat those numbers to this day (though Nintendo's handhelds have gotten in there.) Point is, if I was doing that well I'd have gotten cocky, too. 

I've gotten off subject, though. 

Point is, Microsoft messed up, their image and their brand was tainted, and it's showing in sales. PS4 is besting them by more than 2:1, both in hardware and software, and a lot of that was because of what they said at E3 2013. 

You keep going on about 'games games games'. "they have these exclusives, technically", "Oh, these three aren't also on PC", "Now look at all the backwards compatible games!" 

Nobody cares. I have an Xbox 360. If I want to play Xbox 360 games, I'll play there. if I want to play Cuphead or Sea of Thieves, I'll do it on PC. All these games that you're pitching as reasons to own or play an Xbox are games that are either outdated last gen games that had their chance, are 'exclusives' that are also on Pc, or multiplatform games that are better on PS4 due to the higher install base and better BASE power.  Again, we're not talking PS4 Pro or XboxOneX, because I have neither, and that shouldn't matter; if it did, then we should also include High end PC's, which BLOW XBOX ONE X out of the water, and, need I remind you, can play virtually every game on Xbox One. 

The reason nobody plays on Xbox One is due to all those reasons. They're all valid reasons, and the nitpicky technicalities you bring forth and the reliance on literal translations used to devalue the explanations shows that you're not exactly a good source of info. "Oh, but you can play Sunset Overdrive!" Okay, cool. I'm not buying a console for one game. Very few people are. Hence why Xbox One sales are so low compared to PS4. 

And, for the sake of argument, let's pretend we're completely obliterating the PC argument. Let's pretend, for a split second, that games like Forza 7 and Cuphead are truly exclusive and not available elsewhere. 

Did you SEE 2017's exclusive list? Switch had about a dozen games above a 75 metacritic. PS4 had dozens of games over 75. Xbox One had 3. 

3

Forza 7
Cuphead
Halo Wars 2

That's it. in an entire year. Of those three, only Cuphead was original. Do you WANT me to go through the list of games that came out on PS4 and Switch that same year that had a metacritic over 75? Sure, I can do that, just to show how lopsided it is! HEre's PS4 alone: 

Persona 5
Nioh
NieR: Automata
Nex Machina: Death Machine
Horizon: Zero Dawn
Wipeout: Omega Collection
Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age
Pyre
Yakuza 0
Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana
Uncharted: The Lost LEgacy
MLB 17: The Show
Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice
Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony
Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy
Tales of Berseria
Gravity rush 2
Yakuza Kiwami
Everybody's Golf
Kingdom Hearts 2.8
Gran Turismo Sport

And now Switch: 

Super Mario Odyssey
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle
Splatoon 2
Xenoblade Chronicles 2
Snipperclips
Fast RMX
Pokken Tournament DX
Golf Story
ARMS

Why would anyone chose Xbox when, even by you generous standards, it's not getting games at the same rate as its competition. 

While you are TECHNICALLY correct, it doesn't have NO games, the comparisons between it and its competition is staggering. People do care about exclusives. When people buy a console and they can't chose between a PS4 and an Xbox One, MOST people just want whichever game console gets them the most. PS4 and Xbox One share a tonne of multiplatform games, but when it comes to exclusives, Xbox doesn't really have anything to draw people in. 

So I wait for your response, which I'm certain will be full of nitpicks and complaints about any minor infraction in my argument rather than argue the actual point. The point being: Xbox has nowhere near the amount of exclusives needed to make buying it a good value when its closest competition destroys it in the ways that matter. It doesn't have enough, which is what 'it has no games' really means. 



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And to further shut you up:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/s9sr10wnn3vl4ff/photo_2018-03-10_14-53-01.jpg?dl=0

Here's my gaming setup. Hooked up to my TV right now I have a Switch, PS4, PS3, WiiU, Xbox One, and Super Nintendo.



I have one, but I rarely use it.



KLXVER said:
I have one, but I rarely use it.

I've literally spent more time downloading updates and getting XBLG free games than I have actually playing the games on it. 



I had one but sold it due to not being interested in its future games plus couldn't pass the chance of getting almost the amount I paid for it.



I bought a 360 for the exclusive JRPGs, that was the only reason and Microsoft lost that in this gen.