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Gamer147 said:
When I went to Europe I found a lot more people said comments that would be deemed racist in US. People are far more educated and knowledgeable about racism in US than in other countries. Stop bashing the US.

Yeah... no.



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StarOcean said:
LuccaCardoso1 said:

Ok, this thread is getting completely out of control. People seem to completely skip what I wrote and just answer to the title, and that's not what I want.

Because people don't often read past the title, unfortunately.

You don't need to tell me that the racists in the US are a minority, I know that. I also know that the US houses many different cultures, I actually wrote that in my text.

They rarely read. Outrage culture is what most of these people live for.

What I am referring to in this thread is the practice of dividing people into different races, caring way too much about skin color as using that as a character-defining thing, even unconsciously. Everything seems to be defined by skin color over nationality, ethnicity, etc.

It's because many are uneducated. Especially those of the south. Trust me, I grew up in Texas, where the Civil Wars true intention is stopped at "states rights" and science is considered an optional opinion.


By the way, why are so many people getting defensive saying that "racism is not exclusive to white people"? I never said that. I even used an example of thinking skin color creates a certain behavior by black people in the op (but I guess no one read that).

White people who are insecure and more likely than not conservative, often get offended by the idea that a white person could be racist. Some here might even claim to be a different race to hold high validation of their opinion. 

All in all, you're on a site where the GAF politics rejects come to play. You won't find much constructive discussion here

Thank you for understanding what I'm trying to say.

Even after I wrote this, people keep commenting "When I went to Europe people were racist". Can someone tell people that just like you can´t review a book by reading the title, you can't comment on a post that you haven't read either?



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The U.S is not inherently any more racist compared to other countries.

Rather, the United States has a history of trying to deal with uncomfortable things by pretending it doesn't exist. Pretending Racism doesn't exists exacerbates it. Combine this with the fact that the U.S is one of the most diverse nations on the planet, and the result is that there are more instances where diverse people interact and this suppressed racism can flare up.

In addition, Racism is not necessarily as tribalistic as most would argue it is. Rather it is used to justify institutionalized practices by appealing to the ego. For instance, consider Slavery, which on the surface seems motivated by Racism. As slavery is not unique to a specific "race", nearly every race has been enslaved at some time in history, a motivation of Racism isn't necessarily a justification.

Rather Racism served as, and can continue to serve as, a tool to justify immoral actions in pursuit of more concrete motivations. It is much easier to sugarcoat the pillaging and looting of valuable natural resources as "liberating the heart of darkness" and "bringing light and happiness to the savages".



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pastro243 said:
Snoorlax said:

As a fellow Latin American I agree with everything you've said. The difference is that the Spaniards and Portuguese that colonized Latin America were open to interracial marriage (No, it was not always rape) since most of them had Arab and Jewish roots while in the US this was shamed upon. While Latin America has lots of social problems including colorism, nationalism, superiorty complex. Racism is not one of them... Except maybe Argentina.

Being from Chile, I tell you we have that problem too. Having amerindian traits would put you under white people in the scale of social valoration, even if it's implicit and no one goes around beating people because of it. 

To be honest both Argentina and Chile come first to mind when were talking about racism in Latin America. Despite that it's embarassing how nationalistic all of these Hispanic nations are always trashing the neighbor countries, insulting their women, comparing themselves to European countries atleast that's the impression i get when i read forums, news or even on Youtube.

Simon Bolivar wanted a United Latin America and he failed, yet a certain Brazilian company actually made his dream come true with bribes.



Snoorlax said:
pastro243 said:

Being from Chile, I tell you we have that problem too. Having amerindian traits would put you under white people in the scale of social valoration, even if it's implicit and no one goes around beating people because of it. 

To be honest both Argentina and Chile come first to mind when were talking about racism in Latin America. Despite that it's embarassing how nationalistic all of these Hispanic nations are always trashing the neighbor countries, insulting their women, comparing themselves to European countries atleast that's the impression i get when i read forums, news or even on Youtube.

Simon Bolivar wanted a United Latin America and he failed, yet a certain Brazilian company actually made his dream come true with bribes.

Sush, You can't say other races are racist, haven't you heard? That's racist now. They call it ...reverse racism.



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Yeah, using “Caucasian” as a synonym for white is about as accurate as the Aryan term. Caucasians have white and brown skin, and are generally from Armenian, Georgian, and Azerbaijani lands occupying from what today is Iran to Russian territories located between the Black and Caspian seas.

White people are generally of European ancestry rather than Caucasian.



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And back to topic:

In my opinion the problem in the US is the separation of communities into race specific neighborhoods, or social classes. So people are not used to mixing together as much as they do in other countries and for example if you grow up in a white and wealthy neighborhood during your entire childhood, teen years and young adulthood you will have a tendency to distrust other people that are not white and wealthy cause you don't know them and you never see them.



Well OP, although I agree with the general line... there are things in Brazil that are considered black culture as the religion, music, and things that were imported from USA black culture... but I do agree that most don't give a fuck if it's white, black or any other culture they will like and do independent of race.



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Gamer147 said:
When I went to Europe I found a lot more people said comments that would be deemed racist in US. People are far more educated and knowledgeable about racism in US than in other countries. Stop bashing the US.

Not saying that Europe is perfect cause it definitely is not but on this front you are totally wrong, it's actually the other way around, you have stuff in the US that would be LITERALLY ILLEGAL in Europe, stuff that is perfectly "normal" in the US

like BET...

Black Entertainment Television would be ILLEGAL in Europe because in Europe you cannot start a TV channel that in the very name excludes a race. Just as you cannot have a TV Station called Entertainment for White people... But the US is so fractured racially speaking that starting a company that serves (and therefore discriminates) one race over another is considered normal.

And this is not an attack on BET, I get it that considering the very racist history of the US, that the black community wants to affirm themselves with channels like BET, I'm just saying this would be not just frowned upon in the EU, but downright illegal.



It's not. The media just knows it makes them money.

Heck look at this thread. Just the thread title alone leads to how many replies from people arguing back and forth from all non-racists people trying to argue that one another is more or less racists than the other person.

Doesn't matter what the topic is about, people will sit and argue saying "I'm not racists, you are" and try to point to some other article, google search, survery, study, ect ot prove their point. Then the other person go does the same thing.