Forums - Politics Discussion - Any gun nuts in here?

As some of you may know, I'm Australian. Here we have gun control measures in place. This means that you can buy a gun but the type of firearm you can buy and how it is stored is restricted. You also need to be licensed. We have no right to bear arms in our constitution. So that's the perspective I'm coming from. I agree with US Conservatives on almost all points except for guns.

I have noticed that since Donald Trump even suggested putting gun control on the table as a possibility, the second amendment people have flipped out. 

My question is this: If the US government made it more difficult to buy semi-automatic rifles, would that really make it any more difficult to rise up against a tyrannical US government? Let's be real here - if they're coming for your guns, they're not sending in the local Sheriff to get shot. It's the most powerful military on earth coming to your suburb with everything at its disposal (tanks, jets and nuclear weapons).

You've probably already lost the ability to rise up against tyranny. Even if you haven't, a militia of 10-20 million shotgun, pistol and single shot action rifle toting men descending on Washington isn't going to be much less effective than if those same people had semi-automatic rifles.

I'm not emotionally invested in this issue either way, just confused really. If arming some teachers works - do that. If gun control works - do that. I think Americans should just be willing to do whatever works at this stage and I think that's they way Trump is approaching the issue. 

It's almost like there is a Church of the Second Amendment over there. Can someone explain this to me?



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The interesting part about "they're coming for your guns" is that the THEY in that sentence is usually a military or police person, people who are likely to have conservative values and who would probably resist a direct order to perform such a duty. In essence, according to that argument, many who support a wholesale 2nd amendment are pointing those guns directly at their fellow 2nd amendment brothers and sisters. It's a weird image. For the record, as someone who supports stronger gun control, I've never desired to "take away their guns." It's just not part of the argument and sometimes I find the fear in regards to that possibility disingenuous. I think they're more worried about the "infringed" part for fear of some hypothetical slippery slope.



it makes my d**k bigger and thats all need.

btw, do u really agree with conservatives from this country?



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Slade6alpha said:
Anyone here think of Noble?

Shh...if you speak his name, he will appear with his glock.



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Slade6alpha said:
Anyone here think of Noble?

That's exactly who I was thinking of!



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arming the teachers is stupid... I’m not going to drag a gun around while I am walking around children. The next stories you are going to start to hear is the old teacher that accidentally shot themselves, or, heaven forbid, the teacher is the one that goes on a rampage. Teaching is a stressful job, it’s not a big leap to think that somebody will snap one day.



I'm a gun owner but I'm certainly not a gun-nut. Guns are tools, nothing more.

I have no problem with gun restrictions or with certain types of guns being banned. No one with a brain really thinks they're going to prevent a military coup with their little AR-15 and their local gun club. People with any degree of intelligence simply use that as an excuse. Of course, there are a lot of stupid people out there who believe what they're told, so I'm sure there are some who think guns equate to freedom.

I used to work in a convenience store. I remember this one customer telling me about his last hunting trip. He then paused for a minute and said, "do you like guns? Because I love guns. I really love guns." Kind of freaked me out a bit. People like that are out there.



That's like the first coherent post I've seen from you here. Well done. I admit that I thought you were on the opposite site on the spectrum. Unless this is a joke thread. If so, shame on you.

I agree with your points. I think the argument to own guns just to defend yourself from the government is ridiculous. Especially in the US where gun ownership isn't only in the constitution but the government loves gun ownership as a political talking point. Surely gun control wouldn't be to suddenly subdue all people and enact an evil plan they had for so long but couldn't because a few people had handguns.

It's just a stupid strawman argument so people can keep their useless cock extensions.



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When terrorists attacked a school in Maalot in 1974, Israel did not declare every school a gun-free zone. It passed a law mandating armed security in schools, provided weapons training to teachers and today runs frequent active shooter drills. There have been only two school shootings since then, and both have ended with teachers killing the terrorists.It is an approach that the Americans should take to end the constant slaughter of innocents.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/21714

At work right now but I'll leave this here. Food for thought.