Forums - General Discussion - Do you believe that sites who build platforms for others should allow free speech.

I think...

Free speech laws should be upheld by region 2 9.52%
 
Free speech laws the site... 0 0.00%
 
Speech should be as free as the sites rules 11 52.38%
 
Speech should be up allow... 4 19.05%
 
There should be no speech... 3 14.29%
 
Comments/indifferent.... 1 4.76%
 
Total:21

Websites are businesses, not states. Therefore business rules apply and business owners are free to decide with which customers they want to do business. Although in the case of websites we are usually talking about users rather than customers, because the money comes from ads and the level of traffic that websites generate.



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All sites should oppress hate speech.



Nope, if you allow free speech then you end up with a cesspit like the youtube comments section. That said there should be a clear definition of what is and is not allowable rather than it constantly changing on a day to day basis. There also shouldn't be any hypocrisy.



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John2290 said:
RolStoppable said:
Websites are businesses, not states. Therefore business rules apply and business owners are free to decide with which customers they want to do business. Although in the case of websites we are usually talking about users rather than customers, because the money comes from ads and the level of traffic that websites generate.

Then why create a platform you are going to profit from if you want that platform to be restricted, do site operators not owe it to users who crwte their revneue and keep their site alive to allow them to speck regardless wether they dislike what is being said?

Site owners owe nothing to users. Besides, restrictions do not only drive away users, they can also bring them in. There are plenty of people who seek echo chambers.



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Hate speech and threats of violence should be a no go but that's really it imo



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That's a good point. Why create a site to allow people to speak if you are going to tell them they can't say this or that?
I guess the answer to your question cannot be formulated cause everyone has a different opinion as to what can be said and how much free speech should be allowed.
In my opinion there should be 100% free speech. I don't understand the desire of anyone to control or censor someone else based on their opinions. You could tell me the worst thing in the world, I would totally counter argue and deconstruct your logic or opinion if I disagree with it but I would never censor it, it's just not who I am.

However a forum with no mods where everyone can say everything and anything will quickly degenerate into insults, attacks and such a forum would quickly become impossible to be a part of cause people are incapable of behaving on their own, just like the illusion of safety when you go out in the street. The ONLY reason you don't get systematically killed or mugged is because there are laws that keep malevolent people at bay. And even with laws you still have lots of violence and danger out there...

So a forum needs to have rules and mods and all that stuff. And that's when the opposite problem happens, rules that are too strict or unfair or biased in one way or another, or mods that go on a heavy handed power trip. This varies from forum to forum and I have never met a forum that has struck a perfect balance.

I see no solution to this, as long as forums or societies or countries are ruled by humans that are by nature flawed, there will never be a perfect balance of rule vs freedom. We as humans lack the wisdom needed to achieve such high level of enlightenment.

In my opinion a perfect society, country or forum is one where there are absolutely NO rules and it would be up to everyone to be benevolent and honest enough to simply cause no issues and to the people you talk to, the same level of wisdom and benevolence to respect an opinion that may be totally different from yours and that you'd respect and argue kindly without causing any problems in return. But that is a utopian vision that I have and nothing more.



Flilix said:
All sites should oppress hate speech.

And who decides what constitutes hate speech? You? Me? The site?

See, it's not that simple I'm afraid.



CrazyGamer2017 said:
Flilix said:
All sites should oppress hate speech.

And who decides what constitutes hate speech? You? Me? The site?

See, it's not that simple I'm afraid.

The site obviously, since they're the ones with the ability to do it.



Yes within general morals and values



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VGPolyglot said:
CrazyGamer2017 said:

And who decides what constitutes hate speech? You? Me? The site?

See, it's not that simple I'm afraid.

The site obviously, since they're the ones with the ability to do it.

I mean who decides from a moral point of view.

You are talking about the "power" point of view. The site, the government etc... cause they can, they have the power. But that's not the issue here, the issue is who is right about their decision that something is right or wrong.