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Since the launch of the new game database, the single most common complaint I heard was the lack of sales data on the game pages themselves. And while I'm still in the process of putting out other fires (and attempting to get Machina back online with the weekly sales charts, in general) - I would really like to get a handle on exactly what it is that's missing and what I can add that will satisfy this request.

Obviously, we all would like to see everything available - I get that. But I also know there is a paid "Pro" version of VGChartz, and exposing all of the data via the game pages would have the effect of making that website completely obsolete. So, I need to find a middle ground here.

I went back and looked at the previous game pages, and as best I can tell it looks like those pages had a limited view of the data, as well. Other than the "lifetime" totals for a given game, it seems they only displayed the first 10 weeks of sales data, as well as a yearly summary - so, working off of that comparison, the only thing that would currently be missing from the new game pages (based on what was being displayed prior to the update) are the annual totals. Is that correct???

I'm certainly willing and able to expose whatever it is we're all looking to see - but it has to be within reason, of course. So the purpose of this thread is to gather up intel on two things:

1 - What is it exactly, that is missing from the current game pages, that used to be available in the previous ones? Is it merely the annual summaries? Or, is there something else I'm not seeing?

2 - What else (sales related) do we want on these pages? Again - this item in particular, will be subject to Machina and ioi approval as I will not do anything that might degrade the purpose and viability of the "Pro" website. I do want to hear from the community though and see if there are any compromises we can make and allow for as much visibility within reason.



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There really no sales data hardly at all. I feel it is great as it is. You kept the spirit of the old database with some tweaks here and there. When you add too much clutter you get Gamewise. No offense to Deano, but it's not too inviting.



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TalonMan said:

Since the launch of the new game database, the single most common complaint I heard was the lack of sales data on the game pages themselves. And while I'm still in the process of putting out other fires (and attempting to get Machina back online with the weekly sales charts, in general) - I would really like to get a handle on exactly what it is that's missing and what I can add that will satisfy this request.

Obviously, we all would like to see everything available - I get that. But I also know there is a paid "Pro" version of VGChartz, and exposing all of the data via the game pages would have the effect of making that website completely obsolete. So, I need to find a middle ground here.

I went back and looked at the previous game pages, and as best I can tell it looks like those pages had a limited view of the data, as well. Other than the "lifetime" totals for a given game, it seems they only displayed the first 10 weeks of sales data, as well as a yearly summary - so, working off of that comparison, the only thing that would currently be missing from the new game pages (based on what was being displayed prior to the update) are the annual totals. Is that correct???

I'm certainly willing and able to expose whatever it is we're all looking to see - but it has to be within reason, of course. So the purpose of this thread is to gather up intel on two things:

1 - What is it exactly, that is missing from the current game pages, that used to be available in the previous ones? Is it merely the annual summaries? Or, is there something else I'm not seeing?

2 - What else (sales related) do we want on these pages? Again - this item in particular, will be subject to Machina and ioi approval as I will not do anything that might degrade the purpose and viability of the "Pro" website. I do want to hear from the community though and see if there are any compromises we can make and allow for as much visibility within reason.

What are the differences between Pro and the supporter program?



Move Sales History to the middle column. It has a squished appearance in the right column and seems to out of focus with the purpose of VGC. Sales should be front and center, not squished off to the side.



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The Annual summaries for worldwide and individual regions definitely need to come back! I really miss those.

As for anything beyond that, well... it's already available. I can go to the game comparison tool and see the weekly sales figures for any game for every week that's been tracked. So what not make it all viewable on the game page as well?



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Bofferbrauer2 said:
TalonMan said:

Since the launch of the new game database, the single most common complaint I heard was the lack of sales data on the game pages themselves. And while I'm still in the process of putting out other fires (and attempting to get Machina back online with the weekly sales charts, in general) - I would really like to get a handle on exactly what it is that's missing and what I can add that will satisfy this request.

Obviously, we all would like to see everything available - I get that. But I also know there is a paid "Pro" version of VGChartz, and exposing all of the data via the game pages would have the effect of making that website completely obsolete. So, I need to find a middle ground here.

I went back and looked at the previous game pages, and as best I can tell it looks like those pages had a limited view of the data, as well. Other than the "lifetime" totals for a given game, it seems they only displayed the first 10 weeks of sales data, as well as a yearly summary - so, working off of that comparison, the only thing that would currently be missing from the new game pages (based on what was being displayed prior to the update) are the annual totals. Is that correct???

I'm certainly willing and able to expose whatever it is we're all looking to see - but it has to be within reason, of course. So the purpose of this thread is to gather up intel on two things:

1 - What is it exactly, that is missing from the current game pages, that used to be available in the previous ones? Is it merely the annual summaries? Or, is there something else I'm not seeing?

2 - What else (sales related) do we want on these pages? Again - this item in particular, will be subject to Machina and ioi approval as I will not do anything that might degrade the purpose and viability of the "Pro" website. I do want to hear from the community though and see if there are any compromises we can make and allow for as much visibility within reason.

What are the differences between Pro and the supporter program?

"Pro" gives you access to EVERYTHING - weekly break-downs right from the very beginning, which is one of the main features. Maybe Machina can elaborate on the various differences...?

 

SpokenTruth said:
Move Sales History to the middle column. It has a squished appearance in the right column and seems to out of focus with the purpose of VGC. Sales should be front and center, not squished off to the side.

Yes - I will definitely be changing the location as I've heard this complaint a lot, too. I'm thinking of removing it from the right column entirely, adding another tab in the middle menu (Updates, Summary, Reviews, etc.) for Sales, and having it default to that (with the sales in the middle) upon hitting the game page.

This will actually help me resolve the "missing data" issue, too as I will have a much bigger area to work with...



Being able to see the first 10 weeks of sales data for each region, for example for Xenoblade Chronicles X, because it released in Japan first, there is no way to see it's first weeks sales for other regions unless you go searching for them elsewhere yourself.

Annual summaries, to see how much the game sold each year since release. 

I also feel like the sales info shouldn't be shifted away into just one corner. If I remember correctly I liked how previously all the sales info had the majority of focus in the middle of the page. The way it is now just seems squashed and it's not interactable as in; you can't go click on Europe to go and see the sales first few sales weeks for UK, Germany and France.

I don't think there is much more problems than that really. Perhaps just a white background option could make the page easier on the eyes to read. I'm just used to the rest of the site for the most part having mostly a white/greyish background for areas of large bodies of text.

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What I'd like to see is the sales brought to the middle rather than being tucked away in the corner, and then bring back total sales per week (Right now we can't see how many copies in total a game sold in its first three weeks for example, since that column seems to have been removed. Then as mentioned already, the annual summaries are missing.



Green098 said:

Being able to see the first 10 weeks of sales data for each region, for example for Xenoblade Chronicles X, because it released in Japan first, there is no way to see it's first weeks sales for other regions unless you go searching for them elsewhere yourself.

 

Ah - right, ok!!

This happened because I made a fix to "line up" the first 10 weeks. It used to display the first 10 weeks of each region, but when looking at it in the context of the current output I thought it looked more than a little weird - but yeah, I can see how when a game launches in one region several weeks before it launches anywhere else, you are left with a fairly large data gap...