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Yes.

She's a good fighter, she's a good mechanic, she can understand droid, she can pilot the Falcon and knows it better than Han for f***'s sake, she can use the force and overcomes Kylo Ren's mind powers for f***'s sake. She's a good shot, Han likes her, Leia likes her, Finn likes her, BB8 likes her, even Kylo f***ing Ren starts to like her and she's trusted with a mission to find Luke after barely getting to know the rebellion or whatever they're called.

Poe needs rescue from the empire or whatever it's called and Finn rescues him. Finn needs rescue from tentacles and Rey rescues him. Rey needs rescue from capture and she rescues herself.

The most I can say is she's momentarily disabled by being thrown at a tree by Kylo Ren only to get back up and beat Kylo Ren in a laser sword battle...

 

I can't see how she's not a Mary Sue.

 

On a side note, why does Rey give a s*** about the conflict between the rebellion and the empire? What's her motivation and what's stopping her from just going back to... desert planet... and waiting for her parents like before? She sort of just meanders through the plot if memory serves.

Last edited by KLAMarine - on 13 January 2018

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No, she looks more like a man.



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So we not only can't stop talking about Star Wars, now we need to make a whole thread to have another pointless argument about something that clearly has only one answer.



She definitely is. The character could have been better written and made sense within the SW universe, she would have been well received.



RolStoppable said:
No, she looks more like a man.

Is she a Gary Stu?

mZuzek said:
So we not only can't stop talking about Star Wars, now we need to make a whole thread to have another pointless argument about something that clearly has only one answer.

We're really good at wasting time.

Aeolus451 said:
She definitely is. The character could have been better written and made sense within the SW universe, she would have been well received.

This latest trilogy seems f***ed. Kylo needs to kill Rey to ascend to ultimate darkness status or Rey needs to turn to the darkness.

That's the only way I can see this trilogy's current trajectory rectifying itself in an interesting way.



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KLAMarine said:
RolStoppable said:
No, she looks more like a man.

Is she a Gary Stu?

mZuzek said:
So we not only can't stop talking about Star Wars, now we need to make a whole thread to have another pointless argument about something that clearly has only one answer.

We're really good at wasting time.

Aeolus451 said:
She definitely is. The character could have been better written and made sense within the SW universe, she would have been well received.

This latest trilogy seems f***ed. Kylo needs to kill Rey to ascend to ultimate darkness status or Rey needs to turn to the darkness.

That's the only way I can see this trilogy's current trajectory rectifying itself in an interesting way.

It's owned by disney. I wouldn't be surprised if one of their hallmark characters showed up to save the day.



RolStoppable said:
No, she looks more like a man.

That's one good looking guy.



mZuzek said:
So we not only can't stop talking about Star Wars, now we need to make a whole thread to have another pointless argument about something that clearly has only one answer.

Sorry, what answer would that be by the way?



I think the problem with Rey stems from a lack of real character, as well as true obstacles. I mean, obviously the force enables certain people who are "force sensitive" (since I guess we're tossing the concept of the Jedi out the window now), so of course she's gonna tear shit up. But I think the issue with her is we don't really see her undergo the hero's journey of overcoming real weaknesses, obstacles, conflict (unless you count her brief infatuation w/ Kylo and trying to turn him for some reason), and thus she just feels very wooden to me.

It also almost feels as if Disney wanted to make her as "neutral" and without a real personality as possible so that people can place themselves in her shoes and feel like they're her, but that's not what making a good, interesting protagonist is about IMO, it's about relating to them on a personal level. I just don't really get that sense with Rey. 

Whether you interpret that as being "Mary Sue" is up to you to decide because the definition seems somewhat fluid and relative, but all I know is that's the way I feel about her character.



 

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KLAMarine said:
mZuzek said:
So we not only can't stop talking about Star Wars, now we need to make a whole thread to have another pointless argument about something that clearly has only one answer.

Sorry, what answer would that be by the way?

Yes, of course. Incredibly fruitless to debate this.