Soundwave said:
Star Wars has always been political, Lucas is about as left wing San Fransisco artist as it gets, lol, American Zoetrope was basically nothing but an artists conclave in San Fran for experimental filmmakers. The Emperor was originally conceived to a knock at Republican president Richard Nixon, the "Rebels" are basically the hippie/revolution counter-culture movement against the right wing military establishment. The Ewoks are also an analogy for the Vietcog fighting the American war machine. Lucas has said all this stuff himself. Revenge of the Sith also took clear shots at George W. Bush's invasion of Iraq. As for toys ... no one plays with toys anymore, kids want iPads not action figures, the toy industry is basically just going to be 1 aisle in a Wal-Mart or Target, there's no market for plastic junk. The action figure/toy/doll market is dying and has been for a while, The Force Awakens just gave it a solid push because it was an event picture, spurred on by a decade long wait. Marvel has thousands of pre-existing character properties from 70+ years and thousands upon thousands of comic books, you can't really compare anything to Marvel other than DC. Marvel is not really meant to be some kind of singular universe, Marvel's philosophy was basically to make a comic book for anything kids of the time might want to read. So you have horror (Blade), sci-fi (Guardians of the Galaxy), mideval fantasy (Thor), mystical/magical (Dr. Strange) modern urban heroes (Spider-Man), etc. etc. in one universe, Marvel gave no fucks about if things really made sense or tied together when making up these characters, they needed to go home on a Friday and would just come up with some goofy thing they thought maybe 50 kids would like to see and that was the extent of the thought process behind it. The result is franchise fatigue is not going to hit Marvel as hard because they have multiple genres they can tap into. Star Wars is basically only sci-fi/fantasy anyway you want to spin it.
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Excuses, excuses, excuses. And poor ones at that.
I suspect those are meanings he added later in his life, as the original was a homage to old Sci-Fi serials, just like Indiana Jones was a homage to action adventure serials. Even if that is what he intended, they were written with such broad strokes that it wasn't slapping you over the head with its message and could be enjoyed by all. The new one was incredibly amateurish.
No one plays with toys? Lol, boy that's quite the excuse. I guess the toy market has changed SO much from TFA and RO, which only came out 1-2 years before TLJ. Come on, man. And 1 aisle? There's still like 6-8 aisles in every Walmart dedicated to toys. Oh, and toy sales were actually up last year slightly, even with the poor performance of SW toys.
Marvel has so many genres? Again, come on. Marvel has a formula they follow for pretty much all of their films. They also take great pains to make sure that most of them feel and look very similar. The difference is they are making movies that don't piss off about half of their fans.
Pretty telling that Black Panther, a standalone Marvel film, is going to easily pass TLJ at the DBO, and is going to either come incredibly close to it or even pass it WW. Again, the movie where the safe bet was for it to enter the Top 3 (most likely #2) with $750M-$830M, and stay there for years/decades to come. And make $1.7B-$1.8B WW, entering the Top 5 at #4, to stay there for years/decades to come. Instead it won't enter the Top 5 DBO, and will be pushed to #7 by BP, with 2-3 years before it is pushed out of the Top 10. And it is going to most likely top out at #9 WW, and could get pushed out of the Top 10 this year.
Last edited by thismeintiel - on 18 March 2018