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Mr Puggsly on 28 December 2017
exclusive_console said:
Mr Puggsly said:

X1X dips to 1080p in games pushing for 60 fps. Sometimes the bottle neck is GPU.  Eventually I think we will see X1X games hitting 1080p at 30 fps because of great visuals. But those games will probably use dymamic resolutions for higher resolutions as well.

We can split hairs but you know what I meant by exclusive.

Hah, I didnt even imply Xbox was a Japanes powerhouse. But it has a decent userbase and can handle PS4 games so it gets Japanese support.

Xbox BC has a ton of critically acclaimed games and some have active online populations. But okay, I guess your opinion is all that matters.

If you dont think Xbox BC has meaningful games, youre objectively out of touch.

But there is a significant audience playing multiplat games on Xbox. Spin it anyway you want but thats why its supported. This may be X1's best year in sales, or maybe just another solid year, so that support will continue. MS has games coming as well, several in early 2018.

Really ? Best year in sales?  Xbox has not won an NPD over a year and other region it is doing much worse. Next year Sony probably will have their best year this gen.

Try again, you misinterpreted what I said.



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Pemalite on 28 December 2017
Mr Puggsly said:

I mean all of X1's BC content.

I didn't.

Mr Puggsly said:

Significant enough for continued support. Also, some games sell better on X1 than PC in spite of the massive PC audience.

Not all games sell better on the Xbox One than the PC. I can provide a heap of examples where that isn't the case.
Like Minecraft, Diablo 3, Overwatch, PUBG and so on.



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Hynad on 28 December 2017
Pemalite said:
Hynad said:

Please give appropriate constructive criticism for the PC platform.

It's DRM infested and full of Micro-transaction fueled asset flippers.



It wouldn't be DRM infested if games weren't so easy to pirate. :-/




Mr Puggsly on 28 December 2017
Pemalite said:
Mr Puggsly said:

I mean all of X1's BC content.

I didn't.

Mr Puggsly said:

Significant enough for continued support. Also, some games sell better on X1 than PC in spite of the massive PC audience.

Not all games sell better on the Xbox One than the PC. I can provide a heap of examples where that isn't the case.
Like Minecraft, Diablo 3, Overwatch, PUBG and so on.

Obviously, and I'm clarifying. Lets not forget you said SNES Classic had original games. Its evident you logic is sometimes flawed. Thats why BC was mentioned, because you seem to think emulating old games is original games.

I dont know if your reading comprehension is poor or you're desperate to make an argument. I clearly said, "some games sell better on X1 than PC." I didnt say all.



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Pemalite on 28 December 2017
Mr Puggsly said:

Obviously, and I'm clarifying. Lets not forget you said SNES Classic had original games. Its evident you logic is sometimes flawed. Thats why BC was mentioned, because you seem to think emulating old games is original games.

The SNES Classic did have original games. Case in point: StarFox 2.

Mr Puggsly said:

I dont know if your reading comprehension is poor or you're desperate to make an argument. I clearly said, "some games sell better on X1 than PC." I didnt say all.

Basically what you are saying is that your statement is useless.

Because we could point towards any platform in history where a multiplat has sold better on that particular platform than on competing platforms.



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Mr Puggsly on 29 December 2017
Pemalite said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Obviously, and I'm clarifying. Lets not forget you said SNES Classic had original games. Its evident you logic is sometimes flawed. Thats why BC was mentioned, because you seem to think emulating old games is original games.

The SNES Classic did have original games. Case in point: StarFox 2.

Mr Puggsly said:

I dont know if your reading comprehension is poor or you're desperate to make an argument. I clearly said, "some games sell better on X1 than PC." I didnt say all.

Basically what you are saying is that your statement is useless.

Because we could point towards any platform in history where a multiplat has sold better on that particular platform than on competing platforms.

Games is plural and Starfox 2 is not. Nor is it notable content. I think that ROM was already dumped as well.

So first you make a misleading argument now you say MY comment was useless? Yeah, grasping at straws.



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Pemalite on 29 December 2017
Mr Puggsly said:

Games is plural and Starfox 2 is not. Nor is it notable content. I think that ROM was already dumped as well.

Not notable content? A several decade unreleased game is not notable content? What?
And yes the Rom was dumped, but it was not the complete or final version.

Don't forget there were 20+ titles on the system, some of the most highly rated titles of all time.

Mr Puggsly said:

So first you make a misleading argument now you say MY comment was useless? Yeah, grasping at straws.

Hardly. But if you think your far-reaching ambiguous statements are actually meaningful, then who am I to argue?



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Mr Puggsly on 29 December 2017
Pemalite said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Games is plural and Starfox 2 is not. Nor is it notable content. I think that ROM was already dumped as well.

Not notable content? A several decade unreleased game is not notable content? What?
And yes the Rom was dumped, but it was not the complete or final version.

Don't forget there were 20+ titles on the system, some of the most highly rated titles of all time.

Mr Puggsly said:

So first you make a misleading argument now you say MY comment was useless? Yeah, grasping at straws.

Hardly. But if you think your far-reaching ambiguous statements are actually meaningful, then who am I to argue?

Its notable for being unreleased, not because its a great game. Thats obviously part of the reason it wasnt released.

Anywho, youre on a tangent. SNES Classic has great games as does X1's BC. You can play notable old games on either now give that a rest.

I wasnt being ambiguous. I couldnt have been more clear. Again, "some games sell better on X1 than PC." If that confuses you, then the problem is you.

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Hynad on 29 December 2017
Mr Puggsly said:
Pemalite said:

Not notable content? A several decade unreleased game is not notable content? What?
And yes the Rom was dumped, but it was not the complete or final version.

Don't forget there were 20+ titles on the system, some of the most highly rated titles of all time.

Hardly. But if you think your far-reaching ambiguous statements are actually meaningful, then who am I to argue?

Its notable for being unreleased, not because its a great game. Thats obviously part of the reason it wasnt released.

Anywho, youre on a tangent. SNES Classic has great as done X1's BC. Now give that a rest.

I wasnt being ambiguous. I couldnt have been more clear. Again, "some games sell better on X1 than PC." If that confuses you, then the problem is you.

Why are you arguing again?



exclusive_console on 30 December 2017
Mr Puggsly said:
exclusive_console said:

Really ? Best year in sales?  Xbox has not won an NPD over a year and other region it is doing much worse. Next year Sony probably will have their best year this gen.

Try again, you misinterpreted what I said.

Switch has definitely taken some market share from Sony and Microsoft. Is there any thread or reliable article regarding Xbox sales ?