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Well, it's actually happened. This is a loss for everyone, but of course, especially for those in the U.S. I'm not sure how, when, or if this will spread to Canada, but obviously, fingers crossed it won't happen here, or anywhere else in the world currently enjoying the internet as it's always been up to this point.



The only good thing I can think of in regards to this, and it's a small positive, is that I don't think we'll have too much debate as to whether or not this absolutely sucks.

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"Hi everyone,

This is an *extremely* important update on our strategy. Please read it to the end if you can.

The FCC just voted to end the net neutrality rules. Now, there is one thing we have to do: get Congress to use the Congressional Review Act (CRA) to stop the FCC order.

The CRA lets our elected officials in Congress nullify actions by Federal agencies like the FCC. Most bills need 60 votes in the Senate, but the CRA only requires a simple majority in the House and Senate.
This isn’t easy. We’ll have to apply a ton of pressure to Congress in creative ways. But with the momentum we have right now, we think we’re close.

In the Senate we may be starting at 50/50. Meanwhile, 83% of voters support net neutrality[1] and the level of public outcry (we’re sure you’ve seen it too) has been just off the charts. This is winnable.

In the past few weeks, we’ve seen a few things in particular working well.

Sheer numbers of phone calls, tweets and emails generated from traffic to We harnessed so much traffic from YouTubers, reddit posts, instagram celebs, big links, widgets, and modals on popular websites, games, and forums, and we turned it into massive constituent pressure on Congress. We heard again and again from staffers that the number of calls was critical in whether lawmakers’ decided to come out opposing the FCC.

Local pressure. The open Internet will live or die by this. If we can get dozens of smart, persuasive people who understand this issue walking into Congressional offices anywhere in the country, representing local businesses and professional networks, that is *very* powerful. So think about how you can build a local team to laser focus on your members of Congress, and join Team Internet.

People freaking out and talking incessantly about this on the Internet. This sounds like a joke but it’s not. From our perspective as seasoned activists, the ambient freak-out is actually working to build public consensus and pressure Congress. It works especially well if you’re making good arguments to people who aren’t convinced yet, or giving informed updates on the strategy. (For example, talking about the CRA strategy right now is *really* helpful.)

Super volunteers. Over the past few weeks, we’ve seen a few “super volunteers," working locally or nationally, bringing real pressure to Congress. Usually these folks have either local activism experience, general professional skills from the tech or business world, or both. They also have some consistent amount of time they can devote, because it can take a bit to pick up steam. If you’re interested in this, please be in touch and tell us about your background. You can just reply to this email and we’ll see it.

Making sure everyone realizes this not a partisan issue, and conservatives winning over other conservatives. The ISPs have worked hard to make this a partisan issue because that was their plan to kill net neutrality. But that’s all falling apart now. 75% of Republican voters are against the FCC’s plan when they hear arguments for and against.[2] Tons of young conservatives on the Internet—especially folks with a tech background—totally get this issue and are fighting like crazy for it. You can see this everywhere, from reddit, to 4chan, to Breitbart.[3] So we’re winning there, but we have to keep at it. I still hear from older conservatives like my uncle who still think these ISP talking points are real. Somebody needs to convince him, and it will probably have to be another conservative, on the Internet. You usually don’t win lasting victories by ramming things through; you need to convince people. What your friends and family think matters.

Focusing pressure. We’re building out our scoreboard so we can track who has committed to vote for the CRA and who hasn’t yet, and make sure everyone on the Internet has the latest shareable intel. We’ll also highlight the members of Congress we think are most likely to agree with us or be persuadable, based on past votes or statements. That scoreboard will be our todolist for the next couple months.

To step back a bit, here’s how we see this working.

When you have an overwhelming consensus and passionate support (and zero passion on the other side) lobbyists can hold you back for a while. But if you’re relentless, at some point they mess up or run out of gas and you win. We can make that happen now. And it’s amazing work to do because, as we do it, we’ll actually be learning how to use the Internet to turn good ideas that everyone agrees with into political victories (against bogus scams everyone dislikes), while protecting the Internet as a place where this kind of thing can happen more and more often! Possibly nothing is more important for the future of humanity than that.

On Tuesday we did 100,000 phone calls, and 1,000,000 phone calls since July. Before Thanksgiving, 500,000 calls came out of organic traffic, unplanned. Yesterday, an SMS shortcode for texting Congress was trending on Twitter. When’s the last time that happened? Answer: never. These things simply do not happen. We’ve never seen this before. And that’s really important because, when the unprecedented becomes the norm, the limits on what you can win disappear. And winning a CRA vote isn’t even the hardest thing to do. (Remember, you just need a simple majority, not a filibuster-proof lead.)

I hope we painted as clear as possible a picture for you of where we’re going. It’s really important that you know the plan, because that’s how people get powerful together!

On your home turf, with your own members of Congress, the Internet can teach you to be more powerful than the best lobbyists any money can hire.

And there are millions of you.

Good ideas are gonna spread, and they’re gonna win.

-Holmes and Tiffiniy at Fight for the Future"


I don't think we need to panic just yet... this has really raised public awareness of the tactics cable companies might use without net neutrality, and polls show that members of both parties (non-politicians that is) are overwhelmingly against ending it.

Counterpunches are already being thrown, including a multi-state lawsuit that the NY Attorney General has started putting together.

This is yet another example, though, of why things need be done legislatively, and of how the executive branch has come to hold far too much authority. That something so important with such widespread impact can be decided by an unelected group of five people which, mind you, also allows congressmen to wash their hands of whatever happens there, is absurd.

Shit. I hope there's some way to appeal this. Otherwise this is just going to start a chain reaction that will affect every single country.

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Congress still has to vote on this and most congressmen have openly stated they will shoot it down.

This is just the FCC voting internally to remove the regulations. Congress will stop it. And even if it does go through, the courts will likely strike it down.

Massimus - "Trump already has democrat support."

Nonetheless, it still needs to be voted by the Congress and Individual States can refuse to apply the measure and keep it the way it already is (*ex. California)

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Mar1217 said:

Nonetheless, it still needs to be voted by the Congress and Individual States can refuse to apply the measure and keep it the way it already is (*ex. California)

Glad safe guards are in place, hopeful this decision can be stopped.

New York will sue the FCC for the repeal of net neutrality:


As she basically puts it here, in spite of all the letters they get from people, the FCC majority doesn't give two shits about what the people want. They're bending to what the big corporations want.

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SpokenTruth said:
Congress still has to vote on this and most congressmen have openly stated they will shoot it down.

This is just the FCC voting internally to remove the regulations. Congress will stop it. And even if it does go through, the courts will likely strike it down.



You are putting an awful lot of credit and hope on the shoulders of people in Congress and the Supreme Court, who have done very little over the last several years alone, to prove that they care one single bit about things that affect the little guy. In fact, they have repeatedly passed and upheld laws and rules in favor of big companies. This is just that continuing.

I'd love for you to be right about it being shot down. But I don't have that kind of faith our our "leaders" anymore.