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SpokenTruth said:
Bandorr said:
I'm constantly getting "The connection has timed out" and "problem loading page."

I'm checking my notifications, visiting a thread, leaving a thread, posting at a thread etc. Some times I just have to refresh/try again one. Some times it is two, three or even four times.

Feels like it happened when we switched to https.

This is definitely a thing I've started to notice too but I see it way more at home than at work.  So I initially chalked it up to something on my end.

Pings, trace routes and MTRs go through just fine so I'm guessing it's a DNS related problem.

My first though is you are tripping the DOS protection if you have too many tabs active at once to the site or increased the concurrent connection count on your browser.  That could lock you out for a little while...  What browser(s) are giving the difficulty?

Here are some of the IPs throttled by the firewall the last week:

1116 194.109.11.146
1339 101.176.153.176
1423 31.18.255.50
1755 88.11.79.188
1860 86.3.245.28
1897 99.253.84.27
2845 37.228.234.253
3755 93.245.98.115
4164 89.182.23.124
5471 183.132.252.94
5611 89.182.57.153
9560 107.204.245.87
85348 100.11.233.177
100207 18.205.51.87



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Checking 107.204.245.87... as example, requested over 140 items in a second, and 730 items in a minute. The rate of requests isn't the issue, it's when too many concurrent connections from the same IP....

Maybe I can do something to increase it for authenticated users.



I am mainly using firefox. I did replicate it on chrome as well though. I don't think I have too many tabs. But I may be clicking too fast.
Like click a thread, read a post. Leave click another etc.

I usually go "back" to the home page THEN to another thread as opposed to go from thread to thread. So that adds more to each "trip".

edit: Does "liking" thing cause anything? Like I just tried to thumbs up a comment and it disappeared (like I explained in my earlier post). And 100% of the time that has happened I would time out/lose connection when trying to leave the thread.

Last edited by Bandorr - on 22 March 2020

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I am not sure how liking works exactly, but is the browser doesn't use persistent connections it could increase the sensitivity. Having multiple browsers (or even the same browser with another window in incognito) can also create more connections. When you tried chrome, did you shut down firefox? If not, then it would only add to the simultaneous connections if firefox was causing an issue.

I just added a rule to whitelist active logged in IPs for 25 minutes. Let me know if that helps. It will not help anonymous users...and I may have to remove that whitelist or maybe have a different limit, but any bad activity can be tracked back to a user...



jlauro said:
I am not sure how liking works exactly, but is the browser doesn't use persistent connections it could increase the sensitivity. Having multiple browsers (or even the same browser with another window in incognito) can also create more connections. When you tried chrome, did you shut down firefox? If not, then it would only add to the simultaneous connections if firefox was causing an issue.

I just added a rule to whitelist active logged in IPs for 25 minutes. Let me know if that helps. It will not help anonymous users...and I may have to remove that whitelist or maybe have a different limit, but any bad activity can be tracked back to a user...

I did have firefox open while trying out chrome. I'll pay attention to any connections lost in the next 25 minutes or so.

edit: I've opened every thread I could. I thumbs up a lot of stuff. I opened like 10+ websites at the same time. Not one issue.

So I'm guessing this proves something?

Last edited by Bandorr - on 22 March 2020

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Bandorr said:

I did have firefox open while trying out chrome. I'll pay attention to any connections lost in the next 25 minutes or so.

edit: I've opened every thread I could. I thumbs up a lot of stuff. I opened like 10+ websites at the same time. Not one issue.

So I'm guessing this proves something?

Mainly that firefox (at least as you have it setup) is evil and opens up too many idle connections to the server.

Looks like firefox will even preemptively create connections before it even has something to request of the server "just in case" you click on something.  That makes the vgchartz server defensive...



jlauro said:
Bandorr said:

I did have firefox open while trying out chrome. I'll pay attention to any connections lost in the next 25 minutes or so.

edit: I've opened every thread I could. I thumbs up a lot of stuff. I opened like 10+ websites at the same time. Not one issue.

So I'm guessing this proves something?

Mainly that firefox (at least as you have it setup) is evil and opens up too many idle connections to the server.

Looks like firefox will even preemptively create connections before it even has something to request of the server "just in case" you click on something.  That makes the vgchartz server defensive...

That leaves me two questions.

1) Is there any way to fix that.

2) Can I close VGchartz in firefox (but leave firefox open) and just open vgchartz in chrome to fix this?



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I generally have a handful of tabs of the site open at anytime due to writing articles and responding to comments and posting on the forums, and never had loading issues. I do use Chrome and not Firefox. I'm guessing the issue is with Firefox?



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Bandorr said:
jlauro said:

Mainly that firefox (at least as you have it setup) is evil and opens up too many idle connections to the server.

Looks like firefox will even preemptively create connections before it even has something to request of the server "just in case" you click on something.  That makes the vgchartz server defensive...

That leaves me two questions.

1) Is there any way to fix that.

2) Can I close VGchartz in firefox (but leave firefox open) and just open vgchartz in chrome to fix this?

It should be fixed now, at least for anyone who logs in.

Firefox is being impolite, but not causing real problems as it's mainly wasting idle connections.  The caps were put in place because of some bots and other things doing denial of service attacks or speed crawling the site and other bad behavior.  That type of bad behavior tend to never login....

Yes, if you close VGchartz in firefox (but leave firefox open) it probably wouldn't trigger.  You might have to wait for firefox to release it's connections which can take awhile after closing a tab.  (You can check with netstat).  I probably place a higher limit for authenticated connections later.



jlauro said:
Bandorr said:

That leaves me two questions.

1) Is there any way to fix that.

2) Can I close VGchartz in firefox (but leave firefox open) and just open vgchartz in chrome to fix this?

It should be fixed now, at least for anyone who logs in.

Firefox is being impolite, but not causing real problems as it's mainly wasting idle connections.  The caps were put in place because of some bots and other things doing denial of service attacks or speed crawling the site and other bad behavior.  That type of bad behavior tend to never login....

Yes, if you close VGchartz in firefox (but leave firefox open) it probably wouldn't trigger.  You might have to wait for firefox to release it's connections which can take awhile after closing a tab.  (You can check with netstat).  I probably place a higher limit for authenticated connections later.

I appreciate all of those. You reading my comments, white listing things to give it a set, the suggestions, the changes etc. All of it.



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