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Who should I vote?

ÖVP 16 12.40%
 
SPÖ 13 10.08%
 
FPÖ 39 30.23%
 
Grüne 16 12.40%
 
NEOS 3 2.33%
 
Other 4 3.10%
 
Don't vote 13 10.08%
 
Scoreboard 25 19.38%
 
Total:129

I am always late with these things because I care so little about politics, but it has come to my attention that there are elections in Austria this Sunday. Some people may remember my thread from last year about the presidential election:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=216193

This time a new government will be formed and things are pointing towards a coalition between ÖVP and FPÖ. The ÖVP is pretty much the Austrian equivalent of Merkel's CDU in Germany while the FPÖ's German equivalent is the AfD. These two parties have run the government before (only once, I think), but otherwise it has been a coalition between ÖVP and SPÖ with the only difference being who of the two had the higher share of votes and more say in the government. SPÖ is on a downward spiral though, plus ÖVP has been moving more to the right lately, so despite ÖVP + SPÖ probably still being possible, the ÖVP is much more likely to choose the FPÖ as their partner. At least that's what I've picked up from the little news that I paid attention to.

Here are a bunch of surveys from September that were conducted for major newspapers to give you an idea about the power levels of each political party in Austria:

28.9.2017 Unique research-Umfrage: 
ÖVP 33%FPÖ 26%SPÖ 24%NEOS 6%Grüne 5%Pilz 4%, Sonstige 3% 
(Befragte: n = 1000, Befragungszeitraum 25.9.-28.9.2017; für die Tageszeitung Österreich)

17.9.2017 IMAS-Umfrage: 
ÖVP 33-35%FPÖ 23-25%SPÖ 22-24%Grüne 7-9%NEOS 3-5%Pilz 3-5%, Sonstige ...% 
(Befragte: n = 1033, Zeitraum: 17. August - 11. September 2017, für die Kronenzeitung.)

11.9.2017 market-Umfrage (David Pfarrhofer): 
ÖVP 33%SPÖ 26%FPÖ 24%NEOS 5%Pilz 5%Grüne 4%, Sonstige 3% 
(Befragte: n = 814, maximale Schwankungsbreite +/- 3,4%, für die Tageszeitung Der Standard.)

10.9.2017 OGM-Umfrage 
ÖVP 33%SPÖ 25%FPÖ 25%Grüne 5%NEOS 5%Pilz 5%, Sonstige 2% 
(Befragte: n = 805, maximale Schwankungsbreite +/- 3,0%, für die Tageszeitung KURIER.)

Don't ask me what NEOS and Pilz are. Until an hour ago I didn't even know they were a thing. What's very important is that in early October evidence for dirty campaigning of the SPÖ came to light, so the party is expected to suffer in the election and therefore the above surveys are probably misrepresenting support for the SPÖ as prospective voters might be disgusted by the scandal and vote for a different party or stay at home.

Looks like dark times ahead for Austria. A burqa ban has become effective at the beginning of this month and to cloud its racist motivations, it also prohibits other ways of covering your face. Therefore, someone covering their face with a scarf during the cold months of the year can be punished with a €150 fine if the police deems the temperature as not cold enough. I am not joking, this is real.

So what's next for Austria in the near future is that there is going to be a referendum to join Germany. I don't want to live in the same country as vivster. I wish I was overexaggerating, but this isn't like the presidential election last year where a positive outcome was more probable than a negative outcome.



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RolStoppable said:

 The ÖVP is pretty much the Austrian equivalent of Merkel's CDU in Germany while the FPÖ's German equivalent is the AfD. 

With the slight difference that the CDU wouldn't actually ever consider forming a coalition with the AFD.



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palou said:
RolStoppable said:

 The ÖVP is pretty much the Austrian equivalent of Merkel's CDU in Germany while the FPÖ's German equivalent is the AfD. 

With the slight difference that the CDU wouldn't actually ever consider forming a coalition with the AFD.

Only because the CSU already fills that role.



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RolStoppable said:
palou said:

With the slight difference that the CDU wouldn't actually ever consider forming a coalition with the AFD.

Only because the CSU already fills that role.

Good point, lol.

 

But I'm pretty sure Merkel also understands her electorate enough to know to keep a distance from the AfD. There are far more people strongly against the AFD than people strongly for, and the latter are voting AfD anyways.

 

They're also a party that whose whole existence is justified by 1 unpopular decision of Merkel, and pretty much identify themselves as being anti-Merkel. It's not something that could happen, I think.



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Do you have a threshold (min. 5% to be in parliament)? If yes, vote Grüne, to put them in it, and potentially give FPÖ a bit less presence...



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palou said:
Do you have a threshold (min. 5% to be in parliament)? If yes, vote Grüne, to put them in it, and potentially give FPÖ a bit less presence...

Yes, there's a threshold. Should be 5%, but for some reason there's 4.5% in my mind.

Looking it up, it's actually 4%.



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RolStoppable said:

So what's next for Austria in the near future is that there is going to be a referendum to join Germany. I don't want to live in the same country as vivster. I wish I was overexaggerating, but this isn't like the presidential election last year where a positive outcome was more probable than a negative outcome.

Do many Austrians really want to join Germany? 



p0isonparadise said:
RolStoppable said:

So what's next for Austria in the near future is that there is going to be a referendum to join Germany. I don't want to live in the same country as vivster. I wish I was overexaggerating, but this isn't like the presidential election last year where a positive outcome was more probable than a negative outcome.

Do many Austrians really want to join Germany? 

I don't think so. After all, we are people with strong feelings of xenophobia.

But there are people in the FPÖ - last year I was told not to refer to them as a nazi party - who are members of a club that considers Germany and Austria as one and the same country regardless of borders. Who knows what happens when such a party gains too much power.



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Austria banned the burqa? Congrats!



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Ka-pi96 said:
Austria banned the burqa? Congrats!

Among other things. Certain cosplay (anything that covers faces) is prohibited and only allowed on certain days of the year now, otherwise €150 fine.



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