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Why is there no thread about Spain reverting to fascism?

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Seriously? So many other threads about even the most trivial political things, yet where are the threads about Spain's fascist anti-democratic violence? Why is there always criticism of south American, African, Asian and even eastern European countries when they do something even slightly anti-democratic yet so little for such a huge abuse of power by a western European country to restrict democratic freedom and oppress a minority?

From article 2 of the EU Treaty "The Union is founded on the values of respect for human dignity, freedom, democracy, equality, the rule of law and respect for human rights, including the rights of persons belonging to minorities."

Where is the respect of the Catalan people's freedom and democracy? When will Spain be kicked out of the EU for failing to adhere to one of it's most basic tenents? One that western European leaders have used to criticise other countries such as Turkey and Russia numerous times.



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1. Everybody likes Spain.

2. Rivalry between Madrid and Barcelona is nothing new.



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I don't know, why haven't you made one until now?



RolStoppable said:
1. Everybody likes Spain.

2. Rivalry between Madrid and Barcelona is nothing new.

1. Well maybe they shouldn't any more!

2. Rivalry between US and... a whole shit tonne of countries actually... ain't exactly new either



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Ka-pi96 said:
RolStoppable said:
1. Everybody likes Spain.

2. Rivalry between Madrid and Barcelona is nothing new.

1. Well maybe they shouldn't any more!

2. Rivalry between US and... a whole shit tonne of countries actually... ain't exactly new either

Nobody likes the US to begin with, and on top of that they have no highly recognized football clubs.



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It's a difficult situation for most of the EU, as they all face their own independence movements.

Frankly, the independence movement for Catalonia is rather ridiculous and rooted in faulty thinking spurred on by social media, but there's no denying that they DO want to secede and that the Spanish government is indeed doing everything it can to prevent that, including blocking access to the polling booths.



Well, it's absolutely illegal, so it's not surprising to see Spain use force to keep the country together. I do think that Catalan should have the right to secede if they want to, but why would you expect Spain to just bend over and take it?



Fascism is the wrong term here, it is centralism or the concentration of power away from many local governments into one central government, which is the EU.



Because human ideals in world politics aren't equal, it's about who does and what.



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I do support an Independent Catalonia but I also understand the desire of Spain to keep a very profitable part of the country.
How would France react if a Brittany declared that they want to secede?
From the Spanish point of view, Catalonia has never really been Independent and has been part of Spain for longer than the USA has existed. Would the USA allow Texas to secede or California?

I am a Croatian and I understand the desire of a people to want to be lords of their own house. However, unlike in the case of Yugoslavia, Spain is actually a country with a large majority considering themselves Spanish. Yugoslavia was never really a unified country but rather a collection of different people and religions that were forced to share a house.

I don´t consider what Spain is doing Fascist but rather an attempt to maintain national unity, no other sovereign nation would act differently.