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Who do your want to win?

CDU/CSU 31 10.69%
 
SPD 23 7.93%
 
Left 30 10.34%
 
Greens 12 4.14%
 
FDP 17 5.86%
 
AfD 59 20.34%
 
another one of the parties on ballot 6 2.07%
 
a party not on ballot 6 2.07%
 
no one 17 5.86%
 
see results 89 30.69%
 
Total:290
Zoombael said:
Aw no, election is over already? Missed it... again. Uhwell, i can still play

http://bundesfighter.de

That's so awesome, as a concept, that I'm actually seriously dissapointed at the lack of balance, between the moves of each players. I mean, Linder has no reason to ever stop spamming his frame-1 aerial with ridiculous dammage output, even if his special gauge is filled. 



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GoOnKid said:

 

Lafiel said:

hm .. imo Merkel is a true conservative and as such she does stand for  "things are going well, so let's change nothing"

Right. I am very happy that she doesn't need some sort of agenda to push like building a wall or such nonsense. She stands for professionalism and sobriety. Since she runs the country germany executes much better economically and regained a lot of international trust. Don't fucking up a country means picking the right decisions every day, which is by far not as easy as some may think. It's also worth mentioning that this is a time where she opposes to far rights throughout the entire world, not only within germany, and she's doing very fine.

What are her approval ratings? I can't find anything recent

vivster said:
Mnementh said:

Flip-flopping on nuclear power shows that it is more moving along the lines of public opinion. The description earlier in this thread as pebble in the river is surprisingly fitting.

But isn't that what true democracy is all about? Acting upon issues when things are changing and the majority of the people speak out on important issues. One could say Merkel is one of the few truly democratic leaders that's not just bound to her party or voters, but all citizens.

It's quite sad how people think they 'expose' leaders if they change their fucking mind. I see conservatives constantly talk about how Hillary was actually homophobic because she thought only men/women should get married...in the 90's.

 

There comes a time where a leader who can adapt is much more respectable than one who is never willing to change

Dark_Lord_2008 said:
Merkel has been one of the greatest European leaders in the last 50 years. Germany has one of the strongest economies in the world. Merkel will remain German Chancellor for a very long time.

It's honestly disappointing to me that she's considered a conservative in Europe. Trump is an absolute joke, and I'd happily take someone like her.

Barozi said:
LurkerJ said:
Good to have you Germans condescending to Americans politics and lecturing us about which party is evil and which is nice. Newsflash, there's only one party in the USA, corporatists and lobbyists run the show. Moreover, I'd take those so-called neo-nazis over Islam apologists/importers any day of the week.

Americans are lucky their immigration problems are mainly related benign Mexicans crossing their imaginary border, we'll see how "progressive" Europe become when Islamists stop being a "minority", which is happening sooner than anyone has predicted.

Really? With only ~4% of the EU population being moslems, that would take centuries to change.
Soon....lol

But according to Paul Joseph Watson and Infowars, Muslims are already conquering Europe!!!1! I read it on Facebook two!!!!1!!one!1!

LadyJasmine said:

I am getting tired of people here talking about the amazing virtues of the German Model of boring politics...

A fierce debate in how society should conduct itself is healthy...

There are other models that work just as well or even better...

The Canadian model allows for debate and disagreement and we have a normal country that is consistently ranked above Germany as a great place to live.

The idea that you must have always have a  consensus centrist coalition and no actual serious disagreements is rather boring.

Here in Canada, the major split is left vs right and it is a true contrast of ideas and direction for the country and gives people a clear choice.

For example, the choice would be yes to more refugees or no to more refugees in the next election between the two main parties and that causes a lot of debate, anger and division but people have a clear choice.

 

Nothing wrong with not turning everything into a black and white situation. Why should it simply be more or less refugees? Perhaps actually expanding on issues and having more varied solutions would be better for everyone




monocle_layton said:
vivster said:

But isn't that what true democracy is all about? Acting upon issues when things are changing and the majority of the people speak out on important issues. One could say Merkel is one of the few truly democratic leaders that's not just bound to her party or voters, but all citizens.

It's quite sad how people think they 'expose' leaders if they change their fucking mind. I see conservatives constantly talk about how Hillary was actually homophobic because she thought only men/women should get married...in the 90's.

 

There comes a time where a leader who can adapt is much more respectable than one who is never willing to change


It isn't about changing ones mind, it is about the ability to predict what the consequences of your vote are. You elect a person, but can't say how the person will decide - why bother voting at all? Sure, politician can change their opinion over time, but I want to know more or less what they'll do the next 4 years (how long they stay in power in germany), so that I can base my vote on that. Merkel actually has optimized the way she acts, so I cannot predict anything. The SPD too by the way, hence I didn't vote either one.

Again, the problem wouldn't be as pressing, if I could decide about important things directly - direct democracy as in Switzerland.



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monocle_layton said:
GoOnKid said:

 

Right. I am very happy that she doesn't need some sort of agenda to push like building a wall or such nonsense. She stands for professionalism and sobriety. Since she runs the country germany executes much better economically and regained a lot of international trust. Don't fucking up a country means picking the right decisions every day, which is by far not as easy as some may think. It's also worth mentioning that this is a time where she opposes to far rights throughout the entire world, not only within germany, and she's doing very fine.

What are her approval ratings? I can't find anything recent

https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/194418/umfrage/bewertung-der-bundeskanzlerin-angela-merkel/

On the question of whether she is a good chancelor or not this survey shows that 69% of the votes favor her.

Unfortunately I don't know how reliable or how old this is.

This article http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/martin-schulz-so-unbeliebt-wie-nie-angela-merkel-verliert-an-zustimmung-a-1162138.html says she has an approval rate of 59% in august 2017. She lost ten points compared to the last survey, which conveniently fits my first source.



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Since it has been brought up numerous times in this thread, I came here to say that I voted for the AfD in the poll.



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palou said:
Zoombael said:
Aw no, election is over already? Missed it... again. Uhwell, i can still play

http://bundesfighter.de

That's so awesome, as a concept, that I'm actually seriously dissapointed at the lack of balance, between the moves of each players. I mean, Linder has no reason to ever stop spamming his frame-1 aerial with ridiculous dammage output, even if his special gauge is filled. 

 

Love that. I'd rather play Masters of Germany though :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElpvkA-7WWM




RolStoppable said:
Since it has been brought up numerous times in this thread, I came here to say that I voted for the AfD in the poll.

Doesn't surprise me seeing you're from Austria ;o)



RolStoppable said:
Since it has been brought up numerous times in this thread, I came here to say that I voted for the AfD in the poll.

Go back to your kangaroos.



Gameplay > Graphics

Substance > Style

Art Direction > Realism

RolStoppable said:
Since it has been brought up numerous times in this thread, I came here to say that I voted for the AfD in the poll.

And you voted 50 times, you should add.

By the way, hello back.



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Mutti wins even when she loses. Germany is in a depressing state. First there were all those refugees people had to put up with. They came from Africa. They came from Asia. And now there are talks about Jamaica.



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