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Have not posted in a long time, but i had to chime in on this one..........

Always remember, and never allow CNN to forget........ #CNNBlackmail

Also........ #cnnisfakenews #cnnisisis #scrapthetvlicence #bbcbias

In other words....... SCREW the lying mainstraem media.

CNN are anti trump, BBC are anti brexit, both are LYING SCUM...... period...!!!!!



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The official news are much closer to the truth than all leftist media news which are extremely biased and anti-Trump. Leftist media only spread hate and deliver no news and if they do they only focus on the negative side instead of reporting the whole picture.



Gimme a break with the Trump defence force.

Dude gets away with saying shit no president before him would ever be able to say on a daily basis. Enough with the crying and victim complex, grow some balls Donnie. The media doesn't have to be nice to you, if you wanted an easy ride you picked the wrong fucking job you dumb shit.

Stay on his ass CNN. All day, every day. 



Soundwave said:

Gimme a break with the Trump defence force.

Dude gets away with saying shit no president before him would ever be able to say on a daily basis. Enough with the crying and victim complex, grow some balls Donnie. The media doesn't have to be nice to you, if you wanted an easy ride you picked the wrong fucking job you dumb shit.

Stay on his ass CNN. All day, every day. 

He doesn't get away with saying anything with the media reporting how many scoops of ice cream he gets....

 

 

 

CNN, giving america it's daily dose of propaganda and spreading the values of progressism everywhere. Go, CNN, Go. 



Aeolus451 said:
Soundwave said:

Gimme a break with the Trump defence force.

Dude gets away with saying shit no president before him would ever be able to say on a daily basis. Enough with the crying and victim complex, grow some balls Donnie. The media doesn't have to be nice to you, if you wanted an easy ride you picked the wrong fucking job you dumb shit.

Stay on his ass CNN. All day, every day. 

He doesn't get away with saying anything with the media reporting how many scoops of ice cream he gets....

 

 

 

CNN, giving america it's daily dose of propaganda and spreading the values of progressism everywhere. Go, CNN, Go. 

I think Trump fans mentally block out half the stupid shit Trump says so they don't actually realize it until afterwards, but there was a skit on Bill Maher that was simply an Obama impersonator saying stuff verbatim that Trump has said and it's painfully obvious ... no other politican woud be able to say 1/10th of the idiotic things Trump does. 

The media is not there to be a lap dog for the president. Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, conversation radio which dominates the air waves were all over president Obama for wearing a tan colored suit one time and putting his feet up on his desk. CNN has no obligation to bend the knee, quite frankly a lot of Republicans deep down know Trump is full of shit and this whole charade is going to be a massive embarrassment long term but they are just keeping quiet. 

Fox News would've lost their shit if Obama ever said "no one knew health care was so complicated" or "the White House is a real dump" or "I could shoot someone on 45th street and not lose any support". They would be crying bloody murder. 

Trump should stop being a freaking baby and suck it up. Being president is not easy or glamorous like he thought it was going to be and some parts of the press will always be hostile and GUESS WHAT political newbs and kids -- that's how it ALWAYS is for every fucking president. The difference is the other presidents didn't whine like a fucking baby about it every second day. 



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palou said:
TH3-D0S3R said:

I do, I mentioned it in my comment. I don't normally go to Fox for my news feed, there's a personality or 2 I Like on the network but I dont go to Fox constantly for my news feed.

And lastly, those thinking Republicans are the enemy and Trump should be dead, you're the ones filled up on propoganda. No reasonable people wish death upon anyone, you come off as insane. I can sense the shortcomings of Republicans and am willing to call them out on their issues, and while I've never been fond of the Democratic Party, not once did I wish that Obama would die, in fact I wished him the best, because the better he does the better I do. If you seriously think Trump is pushing propoganda currently and want him dead, the next minimum 8-16 years will not be fun for you. While I may not agree with his own news network, every other source on TV is fake at this point, and he isn't wishing death upon CNN and MSNBC, he wants them to not lie about the news.

Even though Trump is making his own station for news, he comes off as the adult when people say I want Trump dead.

If we're honest, Trump is most definetely better than Pence...

 

As a whole, my strongest beliefs on american politics currently are on electoral reforms. A system that gives only 2 viable options for the electorat is kust barely democratic, in my eyes. People feel obliged to abide to the group of opinions of one side or the other, and have become unable to view issues seperately (since they voted A, they feel the need to justify every single action that A takes, even if it isn't part of the issues which they chose A for.)

I really think that it's time that we dropped the terms "left" and "right". Issues should be regarded individually, and individuals should have the right to be judged independantly. 

I'll agree with notion, purely for the fact thatthe landscape has changed quite a bit. I know a lot of Trump supporters/defenders are Reagan Democrats, and let's be honest, the Democratic Party from 2000 is nowhere near the Party of today. How I see it is that Democrats have moved towards more leftist ideology whereas Repulicans have started to engulf parts of the left while keeping their original base in tact. That, and people tend to use the phrase as slander as shut down insults (similar to how Democrats constantly use racist, sexist, biggot, etc.). The political ideology is on a spectrum, some think slightly more left, but believe in a few solutions on the right.

As for the electoral system, it's just fine. I wish Dems and Repubs didn't control everything, but what else is there even to choose from. Libertarians have no motives to vote for, and the Green Party comes off as a single issue party to the majority of the public, which causes a lot of people to not vote for them (something that may become an issue in the Democratic Party if they go forward with the Trump bashing mentality. *Cough Waters, Pelosi, Schummer *Cough).

And as for people coming to their own conlusion, that's their own concern. I never let the Republican Party steal my vote, in fact I didn't like Trump at first. But as time went along I realized that I had a dislike for both candidates, so in order to support one, I had to listen to them speak. As I listened to Trump, he then came off as relatable to me. He didn't talk over me like Hillary, he used simple words to summarize my distaste in Washington. That and Hillary doing the whole deplorable thing really turned me off from her. Point is, I didn't like Trump, but by using my thoughts and hearing them speak, I was able to get the conclusion I desired for.



Mar1217 said:
George Orwell must be rolling in his coffin right now.

He was rolling in his coffin long before this!! Ever noticed that 1984 is an anagram of 1948, the year the book was released? I'm pretty sure that's not a coincidence. Also note that the book takes place in the UK, somewhere that is generally considered to be a democracy/free country. He was a socialist/anarchist himself, or at least heavily sympathetic of the movements, so he would have opposed the American regime much before this event.



TH3-D0S3R said:
palou said:

If we're honest, Trump is most definetely better than Pence...

 

As a whole, my strongest beliefs on american politics currently are on electoral reforms. A system that gives only 2 viable options for the electorat is kust barely democratic, in my eyes. People feel obliged to abide to the group of opinions of one side or the other, and have become unable to view issues seperately (since they voted A, they feel the need to justify every single action that A takes, even if it isn't part of the issues which they chose A for.)

I really think that it's time that we dropped the terms "left" and "right". Issues should be regarded individually, and individuals should have the right to be judged independantly. 

I'll agree with notion, purely for the fact thatthe landscape has changed quite a bit. I know a lot of Trump supporters/defenders are Reagan Democrats, and let's be honest, the Democratic Party from 2000 is nowhere near the Party of today. How I see it is that Democrats have moved towards more leftist ideology whereas Repulicans have started to engulf parts of the left while keeping their original base in tact. That, and people tend to use the phrase as slander as shut down insults (similar to how Democrats constantly use racist, sexist, biggot, etc.). The political ideology is on a spectrum, some think slightly more left, but believe in a few solutions on the right.

As for the electoral system, it's just fine. I wish Dems and Repubs didn't control everything, but what else is there even to choose from. Libertarians have no motives to vote for, and the Green Party comes off as a single issue party to the majority of the public, which causes a lot of people to not vote for them (something that may become an issue in the Democratic Party if they go forward with the Trump bashing mentality. *Cough Waters, Pelosi, Schummer *Cough).

And as for people coming to their own conlusion, that's their own concern. I never let the Republican Party steal my vote, in fact I didn't like Trump at first. But as time went along I realized that I had a dislike for both candidates, so in order to support one, I had to listen to them speak. As I listened to Trump, he then came off as relatable to me. He didn't talk over me like Hillary, he used simple words to summarize my distaste in Washington. That and Hillary doing the whole deplorable thing really turned me off from her. Point is, I didn't like Trump, but by using my thoughts and hearing them speak, I was able to get the conclusion I desired for.

The Libertarian party chose Gary Johnson who proved to be a pretty poor speaker. I was thinking about giving him my vote, but the more he talked, the less I wanted to vote for him. The party did make huge gains in the 2016 election over the 2012 election in terms of popular vote percentage, though it wasn't enough to break the 5% threshold that would earn the party public funding eligibility.

I came to a similar conlusion, though I ultimately abstained because I didn't find any candidate to be viable. However, it was pretty obvious that Hillary began to lose it such as when she claimed that Pepe is a white supremacist symbol. Not to mention, her neglect of the working class as well as her near lack of campaigning in Wisconsin and Michigan ended up costing her the election.



royboom said:

July job report added 209,000 jobs

This may sound impressive to anyone who doesn't get the context, but a simple bench mark can provide a bit more clue on how the American economy did under his presidency

According to the monthly job report of July 2016 (which is done by the US bureau of labour statistics if I'm not wrong), under Obama's presidency, the economy recorded 291,000 new jobs

So 291,000 VS 209,000

That's a little awkward since he claims that he's bringing the economy back on track using this argument

Also, I did not dig into this, I hope this is the net gain, otherwise it's a totally redundant argument.

Edit: this is probably not the net gain since WSJ estimates that a minimum growth of 145K per month is needed to keep the job market expanding in the US, meaning that the net gain is roughly 64K, compared to Obama's 146K, that's less than a half of what his predecessor did. This dude doesn't know the meaning of awkward.

"New jobs" comparisons are kinda bad to do in such a small snapshot. There's a lot of factors that would go into it, much like the stock market (which has been incredible since Trump became President). It's not all due to or in lieu of the President.



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outlawauron said:
royboom said:

July job report added 209,000 jobs

This may sound impressive to anyone who doesn't get the context, but a simple bench mark can provide a bit more clue on how the American economy did under his presidency

According to the monthly job report of July 2016 (which is done by the US bureau of labour statistics if I'm not wrong), under Obama's presidency, the economy recorded 291,000 new jobs

So 291,000 VS 209,000

That's a little awkward since he claims that he's bringing the economy back on track using this argument

Also, I did not dig into this, I hope this is the net gain, otherwise it's a totally redundant argument.

Edit: this is probably not the net gain since WSJ estimates that a minimum growth of 145K per month is needed to keep the job market expanding in the US, meaning that the net gain is roughly 64K, compared to Obama's 146K, that's less than a half of what his predecessor did. This dude doesn't know the meaning of awkward.

"New jobs" comparisons are kinda bad to do in such a small snapshot. There's a lot of factors that would go into it, much like the stock market (which has been incredible since Trump became President). It's not all due to or in lieu of the President.

I don't claim to have factored in all elements, but YoY comparison makes more sense than Trump alone claiming 209k to be a good performance (which I guess is why many think this news piece is propaganda material, which is correct). In fact, he simply cannot claim that the job market's July performance is good by any measures, let alone claiming credit for it.

In fact, the job market's performance under his presidency has been worse on a YoY basis for 3 out of the 5 full months since he was sworn in than when his predecessor was in power (and by a pretty large total/net margin for anyone interested). We'll see how this rolls out for him in the future.

Fingers crossed for whatever we're wishing for.