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Mar1217 said:

So I've just finished one of the two Famicom Detective Club games and my verdict is a solid 4,5/10. (I played the Missing Heir)

The strongest aspect of the title is without a doubt it's presentation which offers top quality animations, audio, DA in the adventure genre and a solid voice acting cast.
The overall mystery or story of the game is actually quite an engaging quest where your're always surprised by the events ongoing. After the first chapters the story always goes on a nice pacing until it's eventual conclusion which was thankfully satisfying !
At 7-8 hours played, I think it managed the deal to be quite the quality package in the end.

If I had to point out it's weakest aspects, it would be the sometimes archaic ways you gotta traverse conversations or find clues to advance the story with the command system. It isn't always clear what you're supposed to do and although you learn some of the ropes fast enough. I got stuck at two points where what I was supposed to do was completely unclear. This prolly goes with the fact that it was the way Adventure games were back then.

Otherwise, there's really nothing to complain about. Actually, the complete lift over the game received would make it's origin on the Famicom almost unapparent so much so you'd think it's an actual Adventure that could released today with how competent the staff who worked on it is.

A strong recommendation for anyone into adventure games, detective stories or curious about Nintendo past legacy !

4.5/10?????? 

https://youtu.be/lG2dXobAXLI?t=515

It's like the opposite of this video 



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curl-6 said:
Kakadu18 said:

Astral Chain is fantastic, my fourth favorite game ever and my second favorite Switch game. The story isn't the best but the gameplay is one of the best I've ever had the pleasure with.

I can work with that; I've enjoyed many games where the story's either weak or barely a thing. So long as the gameplay feels satisfying that can make up for almost anything else for me.

My only real concern is whether the combat will be as fun, fluid, and punchy as, say, Bayonetta. Controlling two characters at once sounds a little awkward, though most who've played it say it's done really well.

The combat is easily one of the most fluid and satisfying I have ever experienced. That's why I love the game so much, because the combat is so much fun and also fast paced and complex. I haven't played Bayonetta, so I can't compare it, but it's in no way awkward. It's the best part of the game.



Astral Chain's combat is good. Not nearly as good as Bayonetta or Devil May Cry's, but its good albeit with some problems. Its the best part of the game.



Well, that's certainly encouraging to hear. A great combat system would be enough to carry an action game for me even if I don't vibe with the story or visuals. From what little I've heard the music sounds pretty awesome too, which would be a definite plus if so.

At least if the rest of the year doesn't have much to interest me, it will be good to have this in reserve as a backup.



Bristow9091 said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Astral Chain's combat is good. Not nearly as good as Bayonetta or Devil May Cry's, but its good albeit with some problems. Its the best part of the game.

Agreed, I mean we basically got the pinnacle of hack n' slash combat with Devil May Cry 2, and it feels like every game in the genre since has been taking steps in the wrong direction... but it's definitely the strongest part of Astral Chain. 

Spoiler!
... I've not even played Astral Chain but I feel like my opinion is valid because I watched a two minute trailer one time before it released.

I guess you meant 3...



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Astral Chain is good for a debut game

Actually I found the story slightly better (or at least engaged more) than the fighting gameplay

Spoiler!

The chimera controls never clicked at all with me even after 20 hours, besides my starter and the dog chimera I never found battle use for the other ones. It's like a game where you got many weapons but only one or two are really good and half of them are either useless or VERY situational

This leads me to yet another unpopular opinion: The best part of the Gameplay for me is figuring out how to make use of the outside battle to solve mini puzzles or scape the dungeon (in this case astral plane), there you actually make use of all your chimeras, level-design wise Astral Chain is extremely polished for a first entry

Human world is really great to see and explore
Chimera's world is boring af visually, but the level design is very well made you kinda forgive the bland and repetitive visuals

Investigation sessions/levels are also very cool to keep you into the story. However you will hate them if you just want to blown things up

Overall it's a 8/10 for me. I'm sure a sequel will solve most main my concerns about the repetitive-looking Astral Plane and the situational chimera usage



IcaroRibeiro said:

Astral Chain is good for a debut game

Actually I found the story slightly better (or at least engaged more) than the fighting gameplay

Spoiler!

The chimera controls never clicked at all with me even after 20 hours, besides my starter and the dog chimera I never found battle use for the other ones. It's like a game where you got many weapons but only one or two are really good and half of them are either useless or VERY situational

This leads me to yet another unpopular opinion: The best part of the Gameplay for me is figuring out how to make use of the outside battle to solve mini puzzles or scape the dungeon (in this case astral plane), there you actually make use of all your chimeras, level-design wise Astral Chain is extremely polished for a first entry

Human world is really great to see and explore
Chimera's world is boring af visually, but the level design is very well made you kinda forgive the bland and repetitive visuals

Investigation sessions/levels are also very cool to keep you into the story. However you will hate them if you just want to blown things up

Overall it's a 8/10 for me. I'm sure a sequel will solve most main my concerns about the repetitive-looking Astral Plane and the situational chimera usage

The story is pretty bad imo. It starts out as a harmless bunch of references to Nier Automata and Evangelion and then takes itself super seriously towards the end and gets a little cringey. Though I will say the part with the Hermit is pretty interesting and something I hope they expand on in a hypothetical sequel. 

I honestly am pretty defensive of the Astral Plane. I don't think it looks boring at all. I get the complaint that it's repetitive, and maybe that repetition makes it boring by the end for some people. But I wouldn't describe that as the Astral Plane being boring, moreso the repetition. It's super ethereal with a great aesthetic makeup, one of the best I've seen in a game. Really the bigger problem is despite the story literally showing how the Astral Plane portals can suck things in like a vortex, we never really see much environmental details showcasing this. We just have to sometimes find a robot. It's the kind of thinking that is needed to make repetitive visuals more less ... well, repetitive. 

The combat is pretty decent in my opinion, though the reason why I can't say it's as good as Bayonetta or DMC is that so much of Astral Chain's combat potential is essentially treating the game like a set of binaries that either do or don't happen. A lot of button combos act more like triggers for actions, like something you'd see in Xenoblade, rather than a standard action game. For example the legion move that essentially with automatically tie the enemy down and almost never misses, the dog legion move that does a stunning howl, etc. These aren't bad, but they are essentially the only complexities in the combat system. Because of this, the combo system just becomes what two button presses on a cooldown will I make next a lot of the time, it doesn't really require a lot of the real time quick decision making of something like Devil May Cry or Bayonetta, nor the memorization of complex combos. I don't really mind that too much because it does represent a combat system that is unlike anything from other action games (despite ironically stringing together basically every idea PlatinumGames and even pre-PlatinumGames titles have implemented up until now, lol). It helps that it's very satisfying to tie down enemies. But it is naturally a bit more restrictive and gets too easy and repetitive towards the end. I agree with you that I basically used two legions towards the end of the game. Again though, because of the titles pacing, it's not too big of an issue given that you get your full set of legions pretty late and a lot of the overpowered moves for those two legion I seem to remember getting later. The final boss is even designed around switching out multiple legions. It is a problem nonetheless. 

As far as the level design goes, it's a bit of a mixed baguette. I think I do find a lot of the level design pretty good, I like how the Astral Plane takes after Zelda's dungeon design. But a lot of it for the human world is pretty cluttered. Lots of narrow pathways or giant areas leading to like one small optional bonus. Somewhat acceptable given it adds. One thing I find really interesting and kind of conceptually underrated about Astral Chain is how it has platforming that basically acts like an evolution of the kind of platforming you'd see in Ocarina of Time. The amount of height you gain from a jump is pretty much nothing and your destination is more or less already determined by the time you commit to the jump, what's mostly important is how much ground you cover in your jump. Astral Chain does it really thoughtfully with the legion's leash. But, man, is it fucking jank in the game. Like, you can basically create the perfect chain loop just as the game wants, and somehow the physics will work to just slightly catapult you off course leading to your total death. It's so fucking annoying, and it might actually be one of the few scenarios in a game where having less punishment for failing at platforming was as equally annoying as just making the player load a save probably would have been. Just constantly seeing your main character leash out of the abyss a million times to no fault of your own was infuriating in the most asinine way. 

Also, even though I feel like it's one of those scenarios where a developer thought of an ingenious way to tie story to gameplay and wanted to be really original with it, the matter of fact is "investigations" in third person games are super played out and boring. There's really no defense of it other than it makes a little more sense in Astral Chain than it does in a lot of other games. But they're dull. So eh, wouldn't mind them cutting them out. 

I'd give it a 7.5/10. It's a pretty good game but it's hard to take away too much from it when a lot of what it got right was fundamental at best. The music is fucking amazing though, along with Odyssey and Monster Hunter Rise it probably has one of the best original OSTs on the Switch. 



Bristow9091 said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Astral Chain's combat is good. Not nearly as good as Bayonetta or Devil May Cry's, but its good albeit with some problems. Its the best part of the game.

Agreed, I mean we basically got the pinnacle of hack n' slash combat with Devil May Cry 2, and it feels like every game in the genre since has been taking steps in the wrong direction... but it's definitely the strongest part of Astral Chain. 

Spoiler!
... I've not even played Astral Chain but I feel like my opinion is valid because I watched a two minute trailer one time before it released.

Welcome to the internets! 



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