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Azzanation said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Youre right about BC. Its the lifeblood of my XBox One right now. Heh When people are screaming for BC over everything else you offer...its truly telling about your first party.

Whats wrong with there 1st party lineup?

Its their B lineup. Next year will be better because Halo is at the helm. Without Halo or Gears...Xbox doesnt seem to offer much.  Im giving Microsoft a pass this year because I knew this would happen. I mean, doesnt Halo 6 and State of Decay 2 sound like a better start for a lineup lineup for 2018? Its hard to compete with companies that consistently bring their A game as the gen progresses.



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S.T.A.G.E. said:
Azzanation said:

Whats wrong with there 1st party lineup?

Its their B lineup. Next year will be better because Halo is at the helm. Without Halo or Gears...Xbox doesnt seem to offer much.  Im giving Microsoft a pass this year because I knew this would happen. I mean, doesnt Halo 6 and State of Decay 2 sound like a better start for a lineup lineup for 2018?

Of course without Halo it is never going to be there best line up. However Sea of Thieves, Ori 2, Cuphead all look like alot of fun. State of Decay 2 will be a blast for Zombie hunters, and Crackdown 3 looks like a decent openworld game. Theres alot if variety there. Next year will be bigger for sure. This year i gave them the pass due to the Scorpio announcement. Now its out the way, its time to focus on games again.



What they need to do is stop calling everything an exclusive when they clearly aren't.



I think it was actually MS's best conference ever. They broadened the scope of their offer to more than just shooters and tried to appeal to a broader audience with japanese fames, family games and even mmo's.

With that said, i'm of the opinion that they are a very weak first party. To have a chance to actually regain market share they have to appeal to these broader audiences. I do think an expansion of the first party studios and a rebranding or partnership of their box is necessary if they want to seriously have a box with a worldwide broad appeal.



I was arguing right here just yesterday about "logic and analysis" against "but the new Jesus Phil Spencer is teasing an awesome conference, so it will be awesome!".

I'm just laughing about it now. When will people learn? Just like the famous trip to Japan... "OMG, Phil is going to Japan, he will bring back some good stuff!" Yeah, a Dragon Ball trailer, great stuff. Once again, logical and expected though.

About Phil Spencer himself, I've been saying for 2 years that he's just a PR robot with 0 real results in the last 9 years he's been at the head of Microsoft Studios and then Xbox, and that he's failing just as much as Don Mattrick, with just more fake promises on his Twitter. Glad to see that 2 years later, more and more people are seeing this!



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Well this tear they are finally delivering long awaited 1st party games. I'm stoked for Crackdown 3. OG Xbox BC is great fan service. But Phil mislead us about exclusive content.

So whatever, plenty to play on Xbox but I'm most upset we dont have Halo 3 Anniversary.



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barneystinson69 said:

Now when Don Mattrick was replaced by Phil Spencer back in 2014, I was giddish. The guy who actually brought us the games... games! He was now the head of Xbox, and I honestly thought things were looking great.

E3 2014 comes, and we see Scalebound, Crackdown 3, Sunset Overdrive, Fable Legends, Ori, and plenty of great 3rd parties. Well today, 2 of those are canceled, and one of them still isn't released. But oh how little we knew...

E3 2015 comes along, and we hear of Xbox 360 B/C!!! HOLY SHIT! That probably won them the conference, but we also had Rise of the Tomb Raider, Halo 5, Rare Replay (holy shit), Cuphead, Sea of Thieves, Recore, Forza 6, and even some GOW 4 gameplay! Well Rise of the Tomb Raider today is a PS4 and PC game, Halo 5, Rare Replay and Forza 6 were decent, Cuphead and Sea of Thieves still hasn't been released, and GOW 4 wasn't out till the end of 2016. So not spectacular overall (in hindsight), but at least we had a big megaton! Probably the best conference they had.

2016 starts with shock. Fable Legends is cancelled, and Lionhead closes down. I honestly couldn't believe it. They had been there almost since the beginning, and now they were gone. I didn't know what to believe, except that MS probably thought Fable was going poorly, and decided to scrap the whole project and liquidate the studio. I was unhappy, but that was only the beginning.

E3 2016, and it is a little bit eh. Yeah, we see GOW4 (which was announced the year before) and Forza Horizon 3, but those were expected. We saw more Recore gameplay (once again, a game already announced), as well as Scalebound (which is cancelled now), so overall not that great (though Halo Wars 2 was a welcoming inclusion). Scorpio announcement was great, but overall a big step down from 2015, and honestly disappointing. 

So it is 2017. We see Scalebound cancelled, and now I really start to get mad. Its been 3 years, and 2 major titles from 2014 are gone! I was mad, but I held my head and hoped for an amazing E3...

...that we never got.

E3 2017 was by far the biggest mix of disappointment you could imagine. Instead of giving us new first party IPs, we see a slew of 3rd party timed exclusives that are either already on PC or are indie titles. For the whole year, we have 3 AAA exclusive titles (and thats if you count PC). We've gone from a slew of great games to just 3. We didn't see any surprise 343 announcement (which we were told of), we didn't see the "greatest lineup of gaves", we only saw disappointment. To make things worse, the Scorpio was announced with a $500 ($600 CAD) price tag. So you have a powerful console, but with no first party titles to show it off. Terrible, just terrible. This was by far their worst E3 since 2013, and honestly I really can't defend it.

And at the heart of this is Phil Spencer. Now I use to feel a little sympathy for his positon - being in a company were higher ups can end you at any moment, it sucks. But over his 3 year tenure at the brand, we've seen a gradual DECLINE in the amount of games we see, we've seen major studios CLOSE under his direction, exclusives have been cancelled...

...it goes on and on. The terrible mistake of announcing a 2nd console at $500, even though they KNEW the Xbox One did horrible at that price point makes me wonder what MS was thinking. The reason I don't say you Phil is because of your reaction to the announcement, you knew it was too expensive, and you tried to shove it to the side. 

In the end, Phil is nothing but a corporate mouthpiece. He won't stand up for the brand like Peter Moore did, and he certainly won't try to do what gamers want. But, I will give you ONE more chance Phil. One more chance to prove that you can do this brand right. E3 2018. And I will know for certain if your years at Xbox did shit.

But so help me god, if E3 2018 is as bad as this one, I will never, ever, invest in this brand, because I honestly feel like MS is treating it like it is dying. I will buy Playstation (in case you didn't know, I bought a PS3 at launch, so yes, I was into that bramd at one point), or maybe a PC, but I will not look back. 

finally. I don't ever know why people keep giving second chances. It's like a toxic relationship with a cheating girlfriend



Phill said a few months ago that the new MS strategy for E3 is showing only games that have a close range and difined release date.

This is a two edges sword. Sony has been doing ok showing games 2 or 3 years in advance and if a internal project has problems like The Last Guardian they can bury it for half a decade.

For that matter, people needs only one GOTY every year.



barneystinson69 said:

E3 2015 comes along, and we hear of Xbox 360 B/C!!! HOLY SHIT! That probably won them the conference,

Hey hey hey now! Grown ass men were crying at Sony's 2015 E3 press conference. I don't care if some of the games aren't Playstation exclusive. Grown ass men were crying Barney!