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Is terrorism getting worse?

Yes 109 69.43%
 
No 48 30.57%
 
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LadyJasmine said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

Alright... there are rougly 16,000 murders a year in the US. Only 9 of them are commited by muslim extremists. So, yeah. Again... 

Well its not like people care much about the murder solutions either as liberals go 'oh well its down from histroic highs!"

239 people have been murdered in Chicago in 2017 so far compared to 19 in Toronto and both cities are the similar size, have poverty and are racially diverse. 

There is no excuse apart from Chicago is a badly run city. 

how is that "liberals" fault?

the main difference between the two cities in my opinion is that in Chicago you are fucked and forgotten if you are poor, so you have to do "something" to make a living



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Lafiel said:
LadyJasmine said:

Well its not like people care much about the murder solutions either as liberals go 'oh well its down from histroic highs!"

239 people have been murdered in Chicago in 2017 so far compared to 19 in Toronto and both cities are the similar size, have poverty and are racially diverse. 

There is no excuse apart from Chicago is a badly run city. 

how is that "liberals" fault?

the main difference between the two cities in my opinion is that in Chicago you are fucked and forgotten if you are poor, so you have to do "something" to make a living

 

Hasn't that place been under democratic control since almost any of us have been born?

NYC and LA have taken steps to reduce violence, what has Chicago done?

 

To me the issue I found is  that city is actually quite racist towards blacks passively overall. 



Dark_Lord_2008 said:
Western nations are not doing enough to stop global terrorism. Weak governments in Europe are sitting on their hands as the terrorists wreck havoc. 

I think that you may be vastly overstating the size of the problem. It really isn't anywhere close to being a major hazard in awestern country.

 

Governments aren't investing large amounts on terrorism because these ressources can be used in many other places much more effectively.



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palou said:
Dark_Lord_2008 said:
Western nations are not doing enough to stop global terrorism. Weak governments in Europe are sitting on their hands as the terrorists wreck havoc. 

I think that you may be vastly overstating the size of the problem. It really isn't anywhere close to being a major hazard in awestern country.

 

Governments aren't investing large amounts on terrorism because these ressources can be used in many other places much more effectively.

I am bit sick and tired of people like you who want to make Terrorm just the price of living in society.



LadyJasmine said:
Lafiel said:

how is that "liberals" fault?

the main difference between the two cities in my opinion is that in Chicago you are fucked and forgotten if you are poor, so you have to do "something" to make a living

 

Hasn't that place been under democratic control since almost any of us have been born?

NYC and LA have taken steps to reduce violence, what has Chicago done?

 

To me the issue I found is  that city is actually quite racist towards blacks passively overall. 

the city administration can only work within the framework the government dictates and for most of the time that ment less and less money for social systems including education (> no future + fck the poor) and "war on drugs" (primarily in poor districts)

that said the last democrat mayor of chicago was a total fuck up aswell from what I heard



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LadyJasmine said:
palou said:

I think that you may be vastly overstating the size of the problem. It really isn't anywhere close to being a major hazard in awestern country.

 

Governments aren't investing large amounts on terrorism because these ressources can be used in many other places much more effectively.

I am bit sick and tired of people like you who want to make Terrorm just the price of living in society.

You don't leave your room very often, do you?



LadyJasmine said:
palou said:

I think that you may be vastly overstating the size of the problem. It really isn't anywhere close to being a major hazard in awestern country.

 

Governments aren't investing large amounts on terrorism because these ressources can be used in many other places much more effectively.

I am bit sick and tired of people like you who want to make Terrorm just the price of living in society.


No violence is acceptable, no matter the cause. Why distingish between terrorism or just any other murder? Or any other preventable tragedies, for that matter?

 

We should allocate funds for safety where they are the most effective at preventing further deaths - anything else is sentimental rubish, and to the detriment of the individual. Anti-terror is currently not an effetcive domain. So I don't support investing further in this sinkhole.



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ISIS & co. is in a desperate position so it wouldn't surprise me if attacks become more frequent as they throw everything they have left at us.



I think rather than getting 'worse' they are changing. 16 years ago terrorism went for huge, shocking and symbolic attacks that required a huge amount of organization and planning.
9/11 was a huge blow. Even though we had seen islamic terrism in the middle east, India and Pakistan as well as Russia before, this is what really 'put them on the map'.
Now they have sort of graduated to a more random system of smaller scale but more frequent and much simpler attacks. Less casualties and less shock value and symbolism factor, but the sheer amount of them causes an undercurrent of stress and fear.
We are slowly getting used to having terrorism as a part of our daily lives and it is going to make a lot of us insecure, paranoid and intolerant, wich is exactly what the current leading iteration of terrorist leaders (aka ISIS) want.

They are trying to breed a generation of people that is paranoid and distrustful of the systems and values of the West, that grant them freedom and tolerance. They want us to trade on out values for security and slowly undermine them, destabilizing the western world in the process.

And look at the success they've had.



Spindel said:
LadyJasmine said:

I am bit sick and tired of people like you who want to make Terrorm just the price of living in society.

You don't leave your room very often, do you?

more then you ever do.

Its like car accidnts, why make cars safer, the number of deaths is low, who cares right?

 

Same thing for terror...

Just realize how stupid people sound on this...