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Wow, this is pretty sad.



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RolStoppable said:
Turkish said:

We will win our country back! The fact they have to cheat in order to win is bad news for them, it shows how popular Erdogan really is. They declared No voters as traitors, silenced their voice on TV, committed fraud, yet they only won marginally.

Will you go to your country to win it back?

For us everywhere is Turkey, our future colony Germany as well.



RolStoppable said:
LurkerJ said:

In other words, the referendum is rigged.

Europe will miss the days in which Putin was their worst nightmare. 

But what about the American Orange?

He's the one that got away



Turkish said:
RolStoppable said:

Will you go to your country to win it back?

For us everywhere is Turkey, our future colony Germany as well.

Not if I have anything to say about it. I would rather see Turkey go to shit (something which they guaranteed today) than ever having political influence in Europe. Hell I prefer Putin over Erdogan and I am Dutch and he shot MH17 down.



Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar

Turkish said:
RolStoppable said:

Will you go to your country to win it back?

For us everywhere is Turkey, our future colony Germany as well.

Poor wording there, but I wish you luck in your country nonetheless.



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Turkish said:
RolStoppable said:

Will you go to your country to win it back?

For us everywhere is Turkey, our future colony Germany as well.

I do not like to get involved in political discussions all that much. However, is that not like a really bad thing to say. You are basically burning bridges with every German person here. Not to mention it is nationalistic sentiments, like yours, of various countries subordinating one another that typically leads to wars and instability (just look at pre-WWI, WWI, and WWII wars to get a sense of the damage these sentiments bring).

 

P.S. I am sorry for what happened in Trukey. I was born in Iran (though as you can probably tell from my profile, I am a Canadian Citizen now), and I know what a bad political event can do to a country (in Iran it was the events of 38 years ago that turned that nation on its head, not that I saw the transformation that country went through with my own eyes as I was not born yet but I heard and read about how bad the aftermath was). Sadly, it seems like the citizens of many nations are making bad decisions that hurt their future prospects not to mention their democracies. Hopefully, after people eventually become tired of Erdogen (it tends to happen with most authoratarian-style leaders, where eventually their supporters realize they were lied to by a power-hungry person) or his successor they will work to bring back the parliamentary system. 



michael_stutzer said:
Qwark said:

Yep if he wins this referendum it pretty much means whatever Erdogan says goes in Turkey. Which would also mean tourism from EU to Turkey would significantly decline. It wasn't great in 2016 but when he becomes dictator Turkey's economy will probably suffer.

Tourism is not a huge factor for the economy and it is already in huge decline for the last few years anyways. This won't change much for the people but Erdogan will keep his position for the rest of his life. Actually, the more suffering there is, more votes go to Erdogan so the economy getting worse works for him.

13.7% of GDP in 2015 is "not a huge factor"?
Already declined to 12.5% in 2016 and probably even more this year.



Depressing :(



Qwark said:
Turkish said:

For us everywhere is Turkey, our future colony Germany as well.

Not if I have anything to say about it. I would rather see Turkey go to shit (something which they guaranteed today) than ever having political influence in Europe. Hell I prefer Putin over Erdogan and I am Dutch and he shot MH17 down.

It just shows how biased you are that you rather support a man who murdered Dutch citizens. Why? Because Erdogan is a non-European, a Muslim? I can't imagine your reaction if Erdogan shot down that plane. It's mentality like yours and the way your country behaved last month that both sides in Turkey agree with each other.

"I would rather see Turkey go to shit (something which they guaranteed today) than ever having political influence in Europe"

Just wow, Turkey has been in European politics for centuries.

nemo37 said:
Turkish said:

For us everywhere is Turkey, our future colony Germany as well.

I do not like to get involved in political discussions all that much. However, is that not like a really bad thing to say. You are basically burning bridges with every German person here. Not to mention it is nationalistic sentiments, like yours, of various countries subordinating one another that typically leads to wars and instability (just look at pre-WWI, WWI, and WWII wars to get a sense of the damage these sentiments bring).

 

P.S. I am sorry for what happened in Trukey. I was born in Iran (though as you can probably tell from my profile, I am a Canadian Citizen now), and I know what a bad political event can do to a country (in Iran it was the events of 38 years ago that turned that nation on its head, not that I saw the transformation that country went through with my own eyes as I was not born yet but I heard and read about how bad the aftermath was). Sadly, it seems like the citizens of many nations are making bad decisions that hurt their future prospects not to mention their democracies. Hopefully, after people eventually become tired of Erdogen (it tends to happen with most authoratarian-style leaders, where eventually their supporters realize they were lied to by a power-hungry person) or his successor they will work to bring back the parliamentary system. 

His comment has a xenophobic undertone "stop infesting Europe", and I gave him the reply he deserves.



Turkish said:
Qwark said:

Not if I have anything to say about it. I would rather see Turkey go to shit (something which they guaranteed today) than ever having political influence in Europe. Hell I prefer Putin over Erdogan and I am Dutch and he shot MH17 down.

It just shows how biased you are that you rather support a man who murdered Dutch citizens. Why? Because Erdogan is a non-European, a Muslim? I can't imagine your reaction if Erdogan shot down that plane. It's mentality like yours and the way your country behaved last month that both sides in Turkey agree with each other.

"I would rather see Turkey go to shit (something which they guaranteed today) than ever having political influence in Europe"

Just wow, Turkey has been in European politics for centuries.

nemo37 said:

I do not like to get involved in political discussions all that much. However, is that not like a really bad thing to say. You are basically burning bridges with every German person here. Not to mention it is nationalistic sentiments, like yours, of various countries subordinating one another that typically leads to wars and instability (just look at pre-WWI, WWI, and WWII wars to get a sense of the damage these sentiments bring).

 

P.S. I am sorry for what happened in Trukey. I was born in Iran (though as you can probably tell from my profile, I am a Canadian Citizen now), and I know what a bad political event can do to a country (in Iran it was the events of 38 years ago that turned that nation on its head, not that I saw the transformation that country went through with my own eyes as I was not born yet but I heard and read about how bad the aftermath was). Sadly, it seems like the citizens of many nations are making bad decisions that hurt their future prospects not to mention their democracies. Hopefully, after people eventually become tired of Erdogen (it tends to happen with most authoratarian-style leaders, where eventually their supporters realize they were lied to by a power-hungry person) or his successor they will work to bring back the parliamentary system. 

His comment has a xenophobic undertone "stop infesting Europe", and I gave him the reply he deserves.

Oh and I meant every word of it. I think Turkey in its current form us a disgrace for the entire continent. A bunch of heated political swines which always try to bring up bad things countries once did like the Holocaust and Sebrenica. Calling European countries that didnt dance to theur will Nazi's while completely Ignoring no even denying anything bad Turkey ever did Armenian Genocide for instance.

 

It's always fun that Turkey acts like a victim well guess what when you call people Nazi's and tell them that not a single European street will be safe and Turks should make more babies to gain influence in Europe. I am not a big fan, Putin is a dictator and also a piece of shit, but at least one which can be reasonable. Turkey acts like a bully and doesn't give a damn about any relationship with Europe. If a country doesn't want you to visit and your visit is against their and Turkey's own laws, not visiting during election time would be a curtecy. Turkey however chooses complete disrespect over relations with Europe and by that only their own goals. So yes I wouldn't like anymore political influence from Turkey in the EU. 

The day Europe decided to make the Syrian reffugee deal with that corrupted infested now proclaimed dictature that Turkey is was a black day in European history. As for the Muslim part I like Aboutaleb a non muslim major of Rotterdam. I dislike the shit face Erdogan.



Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar