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JWeinCom said:

I think you're misunderstanding me.

By deal with I don't mean like "we have to deal with that snitch".  I mean that we have to deal with it like we have to deal with taxes, deal with rain, deal with children, deal with the media, deal with social media, deal with nutrition, deal with international trade, etc.  It's a part of our world, that we will interact with whether we want to or not.  When I say how should we deal with it, I mean how should we interact with it.

As for your questions, removing all "bad" people from the world would by definition remove all crime. And that's why we have mechanisms (incredibly flawed ones that need vast improvements) to remove "bad people" from society.

Removing all religion would get rid of a sizeable chunk of it.  Nothing even close to all of it, but a good enough chunk to be worthwhile.

Ultimately, you could say that people are the root of all social problems.  But I still don't see how that position is useful.  How does that inform how we should act?

Oh ok, my bad, fair enough, then I'll answer the question properly.

Without the distinction between the problem and the catalyst we could have people thinking that religious people are bad since they think religion is bad, I mean it makes sense right? In fact there were many religious families in Europe (many in the US as well) who's homes were torn apart and robbed with some families being beaten because of what the Catholic Church had done in the past. These were innocent people being beaten for crimes commited by bad people, but since they associated themselves within that same religion then they too must be bad. But this isn't how it should be and why we need the distinction.

The 'root problem' is useful in clarifying that we need to take responsibility for our actions and be held accountable. There are laws in place that inform us how we should/could act.

As human beings we should be able to subject ourselves to whatever it is we want to subject ourselves to so long as it doesn't interfere with other people. We shouldn't let a few (MUCH more than a few, I know) bad apples get in the way of human rights. Instead what should happen is already kind of happening in that people are becoming more and more aware and accepting of science and scientific findings. People aren't necesasrily becoming more atheistic but more questioning their religious values. Conversion rates are at an all-time high in the States with people becoming more 'spiritual' than religious according to PEW results and studies. A lot of European countries have been on the right track for a while what with their majority non-religious views.

The intelligence is there, society just needs proper education.



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Cobretti2 said:
FragilE^ said:
So uh. Regardless of the factors that lead to this situation, I think we can all agree that beating someone to death for daring to ask scary questions is bad.

How do we fix it? Can we fix it? Should we fix it?

How do we change this, without resorting to thought policing? And if we require a thought police, is it worth it?

only way to resolve this is to kill all the radical leaders. then work down the tree. the problem is thoe countries won't d it because they are corrupted in goverment by these people.

 

then again, when you got thee kind of views, were does it end?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV710c1dgpU

If you just kill all of them, are you not the radical then?



VGPolyglot said:
Lawlight said:

And that interpretation results in Islam.

Yes, but there are contradictions, so how it's interpretated depends on societal factors. For example, in some parts it says only Muslims go to Heaven. Yet, in other parts it also says that Jews in Christians do, too. 

http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/reward.html

As I already wrote in this thead, the simplest explanation could be that Khadija were the true author of the original tolerant parts of Quran, then after her death, Muhammad added intolerant "satanic"    verses.
Just like some scholars think that the first parts of the Bible could have been written also by female priestesses of at least another deity, then the caste of male priests totally overthrew female ones and imposed monolatry.



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Honestly, I'm not against the Muslim religion, but when they start killing people over it, you need to do something about this. Not sure what's so hard to get about it.



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2017 years ago, and again with the Crusades a few centuries later. Arent you bored of doing this already?



Human beings are fucked up. Maybe you (yeah, YOU) as an individual are okay but your group is horrible. Whether black or white, young or old, rich or poor, religious or non, vegan or carnivore--the group you're classified under is horrible.

Looking at some other group and saying "Look at those monsters over there. Sickening." may make you feel better but it doesn't take away from the fact that your peers are just as bad.



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d21lewis said:
Human beings are fucked up. Maybe you (yeah, YOU) as an individual are okay but your group is horrible. Whether black or white, young or old, rich or poor, religious or non, vegan or carnivore--the group you're classified under is horrible.

Looking at some other group and saying "Look at those monsters over there. Sickening." may make you feel better but it doesn't take away from the fact that your peers are just as bad.

LOL! You're talking to us in second person as if you're not a human. Are you some alien that's come to warn us of the road we're taking?



VGPolyglot said:
d21lewis said:
Human beings are fucked up. Maybe you (yeah, YOU) as an individual are okay but your group is horrible. Whether black or white, young or old, rich or poor, religious or non, vegan or carnivore--the group you're classified under is horrible.

Looking at some other group and saying "Look at those monsters over there. Sickening." may make you feel better but it doesn't take away from the fact that your peers are just as bad.

LOL! You're talking to us in second person as if you're not a human. Are you some alien that's come to warn us of the road we're taking?

Oh, I'm a fucking horrible human being. 



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