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Aeolus451 on 07 April 2017
Darc Requiem said:
Aeolus451 said:

Honetly, I haven't yet because I want to have the best experience that I can have with it. So I'm waiting til it is patched as much as can be. I'm a big fan of the series and I don't want to ruin my appreciation of it. I've watched alot of reviews and read some, so I have a good idea about it. Just by reading some of the critics' comments on metacritic, you can tell which ones were being more objective or biased. 

Universally, It is the worst game in the series. I'll use the metacritic score for the pc version because it's what came up for first when I searched for it.

Mass effect     89

Mass Effect 2  94

Mass Effect 3  89

Andromeda    74

Stop trying to apologize for a poorly made game. You can't downplay it. It's obvious to everyone that it was poorly made or shipped out before it was finished. I think it should have gotten a score in the 60s because of it's issues especially with the facial animations. It either makes the game awesome or it breaks any immerision completely in a dialog heavy game. It influences how you feel about the characters in the game. Imagine what the witcher 3 would have been like with the same issues. It would have been horrible and it would have ruined the whole game. it doesn't matter how good the combat was or how good graphics were, you have to talk to alot of NPCs and there's no avoiding shitty facial animations/bad delivery. It's like watching a movie with really bad acting except that you can control the MC to some degree.

With the recent patch for andromeda, I'm fine with the score in the 70s. They fixed some stuff but they got a long way to go. I hope they keep trying to fix it.

I'm not apologizing for squat. I've been critical of this game. I've complained about the dead eyes, bugs, and substandard facial animations. I was so disappointed with the initial portion of the game that I wanted to rescind my preorder. Unlike you I've played the game. So I can actually compare it the rest of the trilogy. I've beaten ME1 sixteen times, ME2 thirteen times, and ME3 three times. I've completed ME:A as Scott Ryder once and I'm half way through a Sara Ryder playthrough. You are telling me about a game that you have not played. You need are literally talking out of your ass. Come back after you've played the game and we can have real debate on the subject. The fact that you think it's okay to debate the merit of game you have no first hand experience with is ludicrous. 

I figured you would cope out like this when you asked if I played it before. You're just getting ornery that I'm criticizing the game and saying that it's the worst game out of the series (which it is). What about all of the other people who are basically saying the same thing about the game? Am I pulling metacritic numbers out of my ass? No. Don't try to dismiss my opinion off of some bullshit. I've beaten all of the MEs a number of times and I can read a number of reviews about andromeda to know what i'm fucking talking about. Come back when you're being rational and can deal with other people's opinions.



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David_Hernandeez on 07 April 2017
Cirio said:
So just like FFXV, we get yet another incomplete game that will later be "fixed" through patches. I'm glad I made the decision to skip on buying this game for now, but being a ME fan, I will definitely pick it up in a month or so after a couple rounds of "fixes".

Try to make a game like this with limited budget and a deadline, I wish you luck!



Darc Requiem on 07 April 2017
binary solo said:
Darc Requiem said:

I agree. The unpolished nature of the game honestly reminds me of Bethesda titles. 

Now there's a company who's meta scores seem to be immune to buggy, unpolished releases.

Personally, I actually didn't want to see a game like Andromeda next for Mass Effect. I wanted to either see a First Contact Wars game, or a game that pre-dated Humanity's first exposure to other races (i.e. a game without human involvement, except perhaps a quick visit to a pre-FTL capable Earth). Even a Rachni War game. After all, the Reapers were behind the Rachni war.

Andromeda was basically the only route they could go without a hard reboot. The Milky Way is pretty much untouchable for them as a setting. They screwed the pooch with ME3.  The disconnect between the audience and the gaming media was so bad that it essentially laid the groundwork  for the whole "Gamegate" controversy. The didn't call Bioware out on their bullshit, called gamers entitled, and I don't think the the distrust from that divide has ever really healed.



Darc Requiem on 07 April 2017
Aeolus451 said:
Darc Requiem said:

I'm not apologizing for squat. I've been critical of this game. I've complained about the dead eyes, bugs, and substandard facial animations. I was so disappointed with the initial portion of the game that I wanted to rescind my preorder. Unlike you I've played the game. So I can actually compare it the rest of the trilogy. I've beaten ME1 sixteen times, ME2 thirteen times, and ME3 three times. I've completed ME:A as Scott Ryder once and I'm half way through a Sara Ryder playthrough. You are telling me about a game that you have not played. You need are literally talking out of your ass. Come back after you've played the game and we can have real debate on the subject. The fact that you think it's okay to debate the merit of game you have no first hand experience with is ludicrous. 

I figured you would cope out like this when you asked if I played it before. You're just getting ornery that I'm criticizing the game and saying that it's the worst game out of the series (which it is). What about all of the other people who are basically saying the same thing about the game? Am I pulling metacritic numbers out of my ass? No. Don't try to dismiss my opinion off of some bullshit. I've beaten all of the MEs a number of times and I can read a number of reviews about andromeda to know what i'm fucking talking about. Come back when you're being rational and can deal with other people's opinions.

No, I calling you out on your bullshit. You are giving me an opinion on something you haven't played. If you had played the game and thought it was terrible, I could respect your opinion. You think the game is terrible based on what you've read and heard. You've said so yourself. How is it irrational to expect someone to have played game before they debate it's place in a franchise.

I haven't played Breath of the Wild. I can think it's the best Zelda game since OoT, based on what I've read and heard. I can't definitively say "It's the best Zelda game in the series" because I haven't played Breath of the Wild. As such, I'm not in Zelda threads debating with people that have played the game over it's merits. I don't see how that's an unreasonable position to have. Anyone else have problem with me thinking someone should play game before making such a declaritive statement?



binary solo on 07 April 2017
Aeolus451 said:
Darc Requiem said:

Have you actually played Andromeda? I've finished it and every game in the franchise. It's NOT the worse game in the series in my opinion. There isn't a universal worst game in the series. My least favorite is ME3. Some people hate ME1, others ME2. 

 

Universally, It is the worst game in the series. I'll use the metacritic score for the pc version because it's what came up for first when I searched for it.

Mass effect     89

Mass Effect 2  94

Mass Effect 3  89

Andromeda    74

 

You need to be careful when you say "Unversally". Universally means everyone, and DR bascially proved you wrong in the very post to which you replied.



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Cirio on 07 April 2017
David_Hernandeez said:
Cirio said:
So just like FFXV, we get yet another incomplete game that will later be "fixed" through patches. I'm glad I made the decision to skip on buying this game for now, but being a ME fan, I will definitely pick it up in a month or so after a couple rounds of "fixes".

Try to make a game like this with limited budget and a deadline, I wish you luck!

Every game made in the history of gaming has had a limited budget and a deadline. Not sure what you're trying to say.



Aeolus451 on 07 April 2017
Darc Requiem said:
Aeolus451 said:

I figured you would cope out like this when you asked if I played it before. You're just getting ornery that I'm criticizing the game and saying that it's the worst game out of the series (which it is). What about all of the other people who are basically saying the same thing about the game? Am I pulling metacritic numbers out of my ass? No. Don't try to dismiss my opinion off of some bullshit. I've beaten all of the MEs a number of times and I can read a number of reviews about andromeda to know what i'm fucking talking about. Come back when you're being rational and can deal with other people's opinions.

No, I calling you out on your bullshit. You are giving me an opinion on something you haven't played. If you had played the game and thought it was terrible, I could respect your opinion. You think the game is terrible based on what you've read and heard. You've said so yourself. How is it irrational to expect someone to have played game before they debate it's place in a franchise.

I haven't played Breath of the Wild. I can think it's the best Zelda game since OoT, based on what I've read and heard. I can't definitively say "It's the best Zelda game in the series" because I haven't played Breath of the Wild. As such, I'm not in Zelda threads debating with people that have played the game over it's merits. I don't see how that's an unreasonable position to have. Anyone else have problem with me thinking someone should play game before making such a declaritive statement?

I said that the game is the worst in the series and gave metacritic scores to prove it.  I didn't say "I think the game is the worst in series" or "in my opinion, I think its the worst in the series". I wasn't talking about it in a personal sense or from my perspective. You understand the difference? For example, I could say whatever zelda is worst one without ever playing it and it be truthful because it depends on what I'm basing that claim on. Since I don't have any personal experience from playing it then that can't be the basis of my claim. If i cite actual review scores from a source that's regarded as reliable then that's a damn good basis. I think it should have gotten a worse score. That's my personal opinion. I can understand if someone said I should have waited to til I finished playing it before I gave an opinon but no that's not what you're doing.

You're trying to dismiss "mass effect andromeda is the worse mass effect game" because I haven't played it even though I didn't present my claim based on my opinion but with metacritic scores. Bitch and moan all you want but andromeda is the worst mass effect out of the series.



Aeolus451 on 07 April 2017
binary solo said:
Aeolus451 said:

 

Universally, It is the worst game in the series. I'll use the metacritic score for the pc version because it's what came up for first when I searched for it.

Mass effect     89

Mass Effect 2  94

Mass Effect 3  89

Andromeda    74

 

You need to be careful when you say "Unversally". Universally means everyone, and DR bascially proved you wrong in the very post to which you replied.

Well, to be honest, I was gonna use "Collectively" but I used his choice of word instead to poke at him because that's what he thought I meant beforehand. I shouldn't have used it but that doesn't ruin my point about the game being the worst out of the series. 



Darc Requiem on 07 April 2017
Aeolus451 said:
Darc Requiem said:

No, I calling you out on your bullshit. You are giving me an opinion on something you haven't played. If you had played the game and thought it was terrible, I could respect your opinion. You think the game is terrible based on what you've read and heard. You've said so yourself. How is it irrational to expect someone to have played game before they debate it's place in a franchise.

I haven't played Breath of the Wild. I can think it's the best Zelda game since OoT, based on what I've read and heard. I can't definitively say "It's the best Zelda game in the series" because I haven't played Breath of the Wild. As such, I'm not in Zelda threads debating with people that have played the game over it's merits. I don't see how that's an unreasonable position to have. Anyone else have problem with me thinking someone should play game before making such a declaritive statement?

I said that the game is the worst in the series and gave metacritic scores to prove it.  I didn't say "I think the game is the worst in series" or "in my opinion, I think its the worst in the series". I wasn't talking about it in a personal sense or from my perspective. You understand the difference? For example, I could say whatever zelda is worst one without ever playing it and it be truthful because it depends on what I'm basing that claim on. Since I don't have any personal experience from playing it then that can't be the basis of my claim. If i cite actual review scores from a source that's regarded as reliable then that's a damn good basis. I think it should have gotten a worse score. That's my personal opinion. I can understand if someone said I should have waited to til I finished playing it before I gave an opinon but no that's not what you're doing.

You're trying to dismiss "mass effect andromeda is the worse mass effect game" because I haven't played it even though I didn't present my claim based on my opinion but with metacritic scores. Bitch and moan all you want but andromeda is the worst mass effect out of the series.

No I dismissing your thoughts on the matter because they aren't your own. Point blank period.



Nem on 07 April 2017

I'm happy they are fixing stuff. It was a stain that was holding back the game. Now perhaps people will look past the memes and give it the chance it deserves.