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Aeolus451 said:
binary solo said:

I dunno about you, but to me a 70+ game is a competent game for its genre. People are only shitting on it as being a terribly horrible, no good, very bad game because it compares unfavourably to the trilogy. But in isolation the game is by all accounts a competent TPS/RPG space epic. So the best order of play for a Mass Effect noob is to experience a ME:A and then move on to the superior ME trilogy.

I think a 70+ score for this game is the result of some people being lenient on it because it's mass effect. If you look at the scores from some reviews... It's ridiculous. If any other game had those kind of problems, it would have a score around the 60s.  A game that could have been been an easy 90+ plus game if it weren't for its issues. So to alot of people, a 90+ game was reduced to 70+. The good things about the game can't make up for the bad parts. It deserves all of the shit it catches over it where it failed at. How many memes were created just from the facial animations from this game? You don't introduce a person the worse game out of a series before the rest of it.

I think it's the other way around, honestly. Having the names Bioware and Mass Effect attached to the game meant reviewers had higher expectations than if this had been a studio with less of a reputation and a completely new IP.



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binary solo said:
Aeolus451 said:

I think a 70+ score for this game is the result of some people being lenient on it because it's mass effect. If you look at the scores from some reviews... It's ridiculous. If any other game had those kind of problems, it would have a score around the 60s.  A game that could have been been an easy 90+ plus game if it weren't for its issues. So to alot of people, a 90+ game was reduced to 70+. The good things about the game can't make up for the bad parts. It deserves all of the shit it catches over it where it failed at. How many memes were created just from the facial animations from this game? You don't introduce a person the worse game out of a series before the rest of it.

I think it's the other way around, honestly. Having the names Bioware and Mass Effect attached to the game meant reviewers had higher expectations than if this had been a studio with less of a reputation and a completely new IP.

I agree!



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I think ill just wait for the Complete Edition with all the Patches, DLC and discount. Ill buy it used so EA doesn't reap the benefits.



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ShadowSoldier said:
I think ill just wait for the Complete Edition with all the Patches, DLC and discount. Ill buy it used so EA doesn't reap the benefits.

Never understood this. If you will eventually see value in the game, why not buy it in a way that supports future development of the series?

If used is what you can afford, thats fine - but the logic you've applied here is perverse.



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binary solo said:
Aeolus451 said:

I think a 70+ score for this game is the result of some people being lenient on it because it's mass effect. If you look at the scores from some reviews... It's ridiculous. If any other game had those kind of problems, it would have a score around the 60s.  A game that could have been been an easy 90+ plus game if it weren't for its issues. So to alot of people, a 90+ game was reduced to 70+. The good things about the game can't make up for the bad parts. It deserves all of the shit it catches over it where it failed at. How many memes were created just from the facial animations from this game? You don't introduce a person the worse game out of a series before the rest of it.

I think it's the other way around, honestly. Having the names Bioware and Mass Effect attached to the game meant reviewers had higher expectations than if this had been a studio with less of a reputation and a completely new IP.

I agree. The unpolished nature of the game honestly reminds me of Bethesda titles. 



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Darc Requiem said:
Aeolus451 said:

I think a 70+ score for this game is the result of some people being lenient on it because it's mass effect. If you look at the scores from some reviews... It's ridiculous. If any other game had those kind of problems, it would have a score around the 60s.  A game that could have been been an easy 90+ plus game if it weren't for its issues. So to alot of people, a 90+ game was reduced to 70+. The good things about the game can't make up for the bad parts. It deserves all of the shit it catches over it where it failed at. How many memes were created just from the facial animations from this game? You don't introduce a person the worse game out of a series before the rest of it.

Have you actually played Andromeda? I've finished it and every game in the franchise. It's NOT the worse game in the series in my opinion. There isn't a universal worst game in the series. My least favorite is ME3. Some people hate ME1, others ME2. 

Honetly, I haven't yet because I want to have the best experience that I can have with it. So I'm waiting til it is patched as much as can be. I'm a big fan of the series and I don't want to ruin my appreciation of it. I've watched alot of reviews and read some, so I have a good idea about it. Just by reading some of the critics' comments on metacritic, you can tell which ones were being more objective or biased. 

Universally, It is the worst game in the series. I'll use the metacritic score for the pc version because it's what came up for first when I searched for it.

Mass effect     89

Mass Effect 2  94

Mass Effect 3  89

Andromeda    74

Stop trying to apologize for a poorly made game. You can't downplay it. It's obvious to everyone that it was poorly made or shipped out before it was finished. I think it should have gotten a score in the 60s because of it's issues especially with the facial animations. It either makes the game awesome or it breaks any immerision completely in a dialog heavy game. It influences how you feel about the characters in the game. Imagine what the witcher 3 would have been like with the same issues. It would have been horrible and it would have ruined the whole game. it doesn't matter how good the combat was or how good graphics were, you have to talk to alot of NPCs and there's no avoiding shitty facial animations/bad delivery. It's like watching a movie with really bad acting except that you can control the MC to some degree.

With the recent patch for andromeda, I'm fine with the score in the 70s. They fixed some stuff but they got a long way to go. I hope they keep trying to fix it.



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Aeolus451 said:
Darc Requiem said:

Have you actually played Andromeda? I've finished it and every game in the franchise. It's NOT the worse game in the series in my opinion. There isn't a universal worst game in the series. My least favorite is ME3. Some people hate ME1, others ME2. 

Honetly, I haven't yet because I want to have the best experience that I can have with it. So I'm waiting til it is patched as much as can be. I'm a big fan of the series and I don't want to ruin my appreciation of it. I've watched alot of reviews and read some, so I have a good idea about it. Just by reading some of the critics' comments on metacritic, you can tell which ones were being more objective or biased. 

Universally, It is the worst game in the series. I'll use the metacritic score for the pc version because it's what came up for first when I searched for it.

Mass effect     89

Mass Effect 2  94

Mass Effect 3  89

Andromeda    74

Stop trying to apologize for a poorly made game. You can't downplay it. It's obvious to everyone that it was poorly made or shipped out before it was finished. I think it should have gotten a score in the 60s because of it's issues especially with the facial animations. It either makes the game awesome or it breaks any immerision completely in a dialog heavy game. It influences how you feel about the characters in the game. Imagine what the witcher 3 would have been like with the same issues. It would have been horrible and it would have ruined the whole game. it doesn't matter how good the combat was or how good graphics were, you have to talk to alot of NPCs and there's no avoiding shitty facial animations/bad delivery. It's like watching a movie with really bad acting except that you can control the MC to some degree.

With the recent patch for andromeda, I'm fine with the score in the 70s. They fixed some stuff but they got a long way to go. I hope they keep trying to fix it.

I'm not apologizing for squat. I've been critical of this game. I've complained about the dead eyes, bugs, and substandard facial animations. I was so disappointed with the initial portion of the game that I wanted to rescind my preorder. Unlike you I've played the game. So I can actually compare it the rest of the trilogy. I've beaten ME1 sixteen times, ME2 thirteen times, and ME3 three times. I've completed ME:A as Scott Ryder once and I'm half way through a Sara Ryder playthrough. You are telling me about a game that you have not played. You need are literally talking out of your ass. Come back after you've played the game and we can have real debate on the subject. The fact that you think it's okay to debate the merit of game you have no first hand experience with is ludicrous. 



Darc Requiem said:
binary solo said:

I think it's the other way around, honestly. Having the names Bioware and Mass Effect attached to the game meant reviewers had higher expectations than if this had been a studio with less of a reputation and a completely new IP.

I agree. The unpolished nature of the game honestly reminds me of Bethesda titles. 

Now there's a company who's meta scores seem to be immune to buggy, unpolished releases.

Personally, I actually didn't want to see a game like Andromeda next for Mass Effect. I wanted to either see a First Contact Wars game, or a game that pre-dated Humanity's first exposure to other races (i.e. a game without human involvement, except perhaps a quick visit to a pre-FTL capable Earth). Even a Rachni War game. After all, the Reapers were behind the Rachni war.



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binary solo said:
Aeolus451 said:

I think a 70+ score for this game is the result of some people being lenient on it because it's mass effect. If you look at the scores from some reviews... It's ridiculous. If any other game had those kind of problems, it would have a score around the 60s.  A game that could have been been an easy 90+ plus game if it weren't for its issues. So to alot of people, a 90+ game was reduced to 70+. The good things about the game can't make up for the bad parts. It deserves all of the shit it catches over it where it failed at. How many memes were created just from the facial animations from this game? You don't introduce a person the worse game out of a series before the rest of it.

I think it's the other way around, honestly. Having the names Bioware and Mass Effect attached to the game meant reviewers had higher expectations than if this had been a studio with less of a reputation and a completely new IP.

I think it's both ways. You have some people who are giving it a 1 out of 10 and others giving it a 8 or 9 out of 10. It's ridiculous either way but i think that people in the middle are still looking at the game with rose tinted glasses. No one wants the game to be bad. Everyone wants the game to live up to the others so they're trying to think of it as positively as possible for their sake more than others. No one wants a beloved series to not do good. 

Think of the elder scrolls games like skyrim. If you ask someone what they think of it and they never mention the bugs, you know that person is letting their bias color their opinion on it to such a degree, that you can't trust their opinion. Especially if they don't mention anything bad about it at all. If someone says the love the game but it has alot of problems then you know they're being more objective or trying to be.