Forums - Sales Discussion - Horizon Zero Dawn beats Zelda to No.1 in UK ( PS4’s biggest ever new IP launch)

BraLoD said:
bananaking21 said:

dude

Horizon is Sony's biggest new franchise launch on PS4 - a title previously held by No Man's Sky. It's also the biggest PS4 launch in general since Uncharted 4.

 

Destiny had the same launch as UC4. 

As Ka-pi said, if the info doesn't match, it's the author fault, because he says that "...becoming PS4’s biggest ever new IP launch in the process."
He is not making any kind of distinction here, while is he is doing for it on other pieces of the article.

As far as I can tell BK's bit doesn't even come from the article though. So unless he has another one somewhere?



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Not surprising considering the Wii U and Switch UK userbase combined is under 1 million while the PS4 has a userbase of over 5 million. Regardless, congrats to them for a strong new IP launch.



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Ka-pi96 said:
BraLoD said:

As Ka-pi said, if the info doesn't match, it's the author fault, because he says that "...becoming PS4’s biggest ever new IP launch in the process."
He is not making any kind of distinction here, while is he is doing for it on other pieces of the article.

As far as I can tell BK's bit doesn't even come from the article though. So unless he has another one somewhere?

BK's?



Peh said:
naruball said:

You saying that they don't hold, doesn't magically make them so. That's not how an argument works.

1. Again with the number of swiches sold. Nice. 4th time in a row and has nothing to do with my point. Didn't say that everyone likes Zelda, hence the "most likely" part. Feel free to pay closer attention next time.

2. Several AAA and non AAA exlusives came out. Ps4 owners have backlogs that Switch owners don't since this is the very begining of the console. As for the rest of your point, I'm not sure what you're trying to say. It's not phrased well.

They don't hold because I already stated why. You still havn't showed me a valid argument why I should think otherwise.

Again, you say Zelda has Zero competition, yet ignore the fact that people make lots of comparisions between those 2 games even on this board. Second, there is only a limited number of Switch Units available for people to actually buy the game as I already stated to you, which you still don't get why Horizon sold better than Zelda. If there were twice as more Switch units available for the UK at launch, guess which game would be on top. And like I said, we don't know the certain numbers of software sold. But I doubt that it is higher than 120k.  Again, even if PS4 has thousands or even millions of other options, this is just in favour for my argument. Because as I said, the attach rate could be around 1,8 % depending of how many software were sold. Thus more than 90 % of PS4 gamers didn't care about Horizon Zero Dawn or bought something else.

We got an attach rate of 78% vs less than 10%? So, what are you trying to sell me?

Not trying to sell you anything. I'm not in that business. But if you are, good luck with your business.

"If there were twice as more Switch units available for the UK at launch, guess which game would be on top"

I don't and neither do you.

"Again, even if PS4 has thousands or even millions of other options, this is just in favour for my argument"

It is not. Ps4 owners can buy one of the many games avaialble for it (especially these two past months with all the critical acclaimed games that have come out and must have cost ps4 owners a pretty penny). Switch owners don't have anywhere near as many options. They bought the system and they need a game for it. Since the rest of the lineup is not very impressive, it's the game most will buy. Ps4 owners can buy Horizon much later, knowing damn well that it will get a price cut in a few weeks/months unlike most Ninty games.

"We got an attach rate of 78% vs less than 10%?"

Yeah, remember that game that came out 3 years after a console launched and had an attach ratio of 78%? Me neither. The comparison is ridiculous no matter how you put it.

Zelda doing well on Switch can only be compared to something like Uncharted Golden Abyss, the psv game that topped the UK chart when it launched, since, despite the fact that there were a few other vita titles available at launch, it was THE game to own with the handheld. Big launch games have incredibly high attach rates; nothing new here.



BraLoD said:
Ka-pi96 said:

As far as I can tell BK's bit doesn't even come from the article though. So unless he has another one somewhere?

BK's?

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Ka-pi96 said:
BraLoD said:

As Ka-pi said, if the info doesn't match, it's the author fault, because he says that "...becoming PS4’s biggest ever new IP launch in the process."
He is not making any kind of distinction here, while is he is doing for it on other pieces of the article.

As far as I can tell BK's bit doesn't even come from the article though. So unless he has another one somewhere?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-03-06-horizon-zero-dawn-is-sonys-biggest-ps4-franchise-debut

 

my source. 

 

i am also looking for where i saw Destiny numbers for its first week. cant seem to find it. 

 

edit:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=231560482&postcount=66

 

here, UC4 = Destiny

the original article probably forgot to mention that its the biggest new IP launch from Sony, not in general. 



bananaking21 said:

i am also looking for where i saw Destiny numbers for its first week. cant seem to find it. 

The only info I can find on Destiny+UC4 numbers is Destiny was the best selling new IP in the UK on ps4 (also from the same source as the article in OP of this thread.)

And Uncharted 4 sold 66% more copies at launch in the UK than Uncharted 3.

No official numbers for either, also I am unsure if MCVUK track digital or not?



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KazumaKiryu said:
The PS4 Pro is sold out in many stores in UK (& Germany, France, Usa). Really pity, Sony should produce more!

It's definitely not sold out in the UK. It's listed as in stock on Argos , Very, shopto and tesco. 



Ka-pi96 said:
BraLoD said:

BK's?

Banana King

It's bananaboy.



bananaking21 said:
Ka-pi96 said:

As far as I can tell BK's bit doesn't even come from the article though. So unless he has another one somewhere?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-03-06-horizon-zero-dawn-is-sonys-biggest-ps4-franchise-debut

 

my source. 

 

i am also looking for where i saw Destiny numbers for its first week. cant seem to find it. 

 

edit:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=231560482&postcount=66

 

here, UC4 = Destiny

the original article probably forgot to mention that its the biggest new IP launch from Sony, not in general. 

ah, well then assuming the writer of the MCV article is wrong... that's much less impressive. It's competition for that title is now... No Man's Sky & Knack?



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