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cpg716 said:
kitler53 said:
claims MS has been pretty open about scorpio....

...lists a bunch of rumors.



ms can't even get their marketing straight about if scorpio will have exclusives or if all games will be required to support xbone. if all games support xbone then who really gives a fuck how much more specs scorpio has compared to ps4 pro,.. it's all in service to a resolution bump to "true 4k" instead of sony's checkerboarding technique. talk about a waste of power.

Um.  They have been VERY clear about it. VR will only be supported on the Scorpio.  Which will be superior then PS VR.

Otherwise. It works JUST LIKE GAMES ON PC. Why is this so difficult for people to understand when it has been done for decades now.

Games will run at 720p/900p/1080p with shorter draw distance and inferior textures, shadowing, lighting, lower FPS on Xbox One

Games will run at 4K(native or other technique) with longer draw distance, suprerior textures, shadowing, lighting, better FPS on Scorpio.

Its not just about "resolution bump". Games will LOOK better on the Scorpio vs Xbox One and PS4 Pro.   If that  and a better console VR experience matters to someone beyond "exclusives" then the Scorpio would be the better choice. 

It matters when you have quantity/quality games on your console.

 

And lately Xbox One seems to need both.



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Yes it will, there is a reason they are releasing the console one year after. It is expected from MS or Sony if they release a console after the competition. Nintendo is the only one that don't play by that rule.



cpg716 said:

Games will run at 4K(native or other technique) with longer draw distance, suprerior textures, shadowing, lighting, better FPS on Scorpio.

Its not just about "resolution bump". Games will LOOK better on the Scorpio vs Xbox One and PS4 Pro.   If that  and a better console VR experience matters to someone beyond "exclusives" then the Scorpio would be the better choice. 

You're going to be dissapointed... Microsoft will prioritize Native 4k. The difference between Pro and Scoprio will essentially come down to 1800p vs Native 4k, or in more demanding titles 1400p vs 1800p imo, and a more consistent frame rate on Scorpio.

6 TFlops isn't enough for native 4k gaming and graphical enhancements as well.

 

and as for this "It works JUST LIKE GAMES ON PC." I'm not sure what you're talking about here.



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2020: PS4 - 9m, Switch - 22.5m, XBO - 2.5m, PS5 - 4.5m, XBX - 2.8m

Teraflops is not everything, ram and CPU will add a lot is the console has more than PS4P. I would like to see games run at 60fps especially if they were not made specifically for Scorpio. I hope they make more games like Halo 5 and sacrifice graphical details to ensure a steady 60fps on Xbox One and get a more graphical push for those who bought a Scorpio but also get the 60fps.



kazuyamishima said:
cpg716 said:

Um.  They have been VERY clear about it. VR will only be supported on the Scorpio.  Which will be superior then PS VR.

Otherwise. It works JUST LIKE GAMES ON PC. Why is this so difficult for people to understand when it has been done for decades now.

Games will run at 720p/900p/1080p with shorter draw distance and inferior textures, shadowing, lighting, lower FPS on Xbox One

Games will run at 4K(native or other technique) with longer draw distance, suprerior textures, shadowing, lighting, better FPS on Scorpio.

Its not just about "resolution bump". Games will LOOK better on the Scorpio vs Xbox One and PS4 Pro.   If that  and a better console VR experience matters to someone beyond "exclusives" then the Scorpio would be the better choice. 

It matters when you have quantity/quality games on your console.

 

And lately Xbox One seems to need both.

Explain to me how PS releasing maybe 4 or 5 more exlusives dramatically makes a difference?

I always find this to be a false narative. I own both consoles. There is MORE to play on them then I can handle. 

They share 95% of the SAME EXACT GAMES. But yet somehow 4 or 5 more "exclusives" (I'm not talking indie) a year makes some HUGE difference between their catalogs.

Just to give you an EXAMPLE..  Top 100 Video Games for 2016..  Microsoft had 3 Exclusives, (Halo, Forza, and Gears 4).   PS4 had 5 (Last Of Us, Uncharted, and No Mans Sky, Ratched & Clank, and The Show)

So.. The PS4 had 2 more exlcusives that sold well in 2016.. compared to the X1..     That really is a big difference? 



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Barkley said:
cpg716 said:

Games will run at 4K(native or other technique) with longer draw distance, suprerior textures, shadowing, lighting, better FPS on Scorpio.

Its not just about "resolution bump". Games will LOOK better on the Scorpio vs Xbox One and PS4 Pro.   If that  and a better console VR experience matters to someone beyond "exclusives" then the Scorpio would be the better choice. 

You're going to be dissapointed... Microsoft will prioritize Native 4k. The difference between Pro and Scoprio will essentially come down to 1800p vs Native 4k, or in more demanding titles 1400p vs 1800p imo, and a more consistent frame rate on Scorpio.

6 TFlops isn't enough for native 4k gaming and graphical enhancements as well.

 

and as for this "It works JUST LIKE GAMES ON PC." I'm not sure what you're talking about here.

Considering the rest of the post was explaiing the statement you didn't understand.. I don't know how to answer you.



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cpg716 said:

Considering the rest of the post was explaiing the statement you didn't understand.. I don't know how to answer you.

Then if you are stating that games will run on Scorpio the same as they run on PC then you clearly don't know what you're talking about. I Didn't want to jump to the conclusion that was what you were saying however.



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2020: PS4 - 9m, Switch - 22.5m, XBO - 2.5m, PS5 - 4.5m, XBX - 2.8m

Unless it can match the price and the games library, the Scorpio will largely sell to existing XB fans which will lead to a initial spike and then a slow decline. The only chance MS have of taking anything from the Scorpio is to change the narrative to it being a 'new generation' and not a 'mid generation update'. The problem with that is MS will have to manage the PR carefully because people will expect Scorpio only titles and that isn't what was promised and one of the main reasons people are happy buying the Slim and not waiting for the Scorpio. I'm already seeing 'BC' being pushed so it's not out of the question that's the route MS will take.



 

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Barkley said:
cpg716 said:

Considering the rest of the post was explaiing the statement you didn't understand.. I don't know how to answer you.

Then if you are stating that games will run on Scorpio the same as they run on PC then you clearly don't know what you're talking about. I Didn't want to jump to the conclusion that was what you were saying however

Again. The post was explaining how it works on PC when it comes to more power..   I still dont get why you are confused. 

Hence the example of a games running 1080p on X1 and then 4k on Scorpio. 



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PS4: 85-95m
X1: 55-65m
WiiU: 20-30m

I'm expecting "The most powerful console EVER" to own the PS4 Pro in every category. Because if it doesn't....I will sue.