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Einsam_Delphin said:
Cloudman said:

I know that because the visuals are all there in the reveal trailer. Everything I have said about it had been from the footage, and not something I am assuming. This is just the beginning too. I imagine they can do even more with the paper aesthetics. And the idea of making it a paper theme was just the team loving the look and idea of the concept, looking like a sort of picture book, so they went with it. It wasn't to make development easier. I don't see anything that makes it bad. I just see a game with an interesting idea with a lot of potential. I'd like to know why it's different in a bad way. Also, as far as I know, Mario has always been mute in the game.

The video may have been made by GameXplain, but it doesn't change the fact that it focuses on Paper Mario, as well as turning some of that doubt into interest.

 

 

Erm you are just assuming since they didn't say whether or not the graphics took a lot of effort. Paper Mario was Intelligent Systems first foray into 3D, so they went with a paper aesthetic to make adjusting to such a huge change easier. Based on the rest of your post, I have to ask if you've played any of the Paper Mario games. If you haven't that might be why we're even having this discussion. Play Thousand Year Door then Sticker Star and all should become crystal clear.

Well that doesn't change the fact that the video was made by Gamexplain and the content within the video is their discussion about a game, not the game itself. It doesn't make any sense to dislike one video about a game and then like another video about it that provides no new information, so they must like it for it the GameXplainess, that's why I still like it atleast. Once they show off the game again still looking like Sticker Star 2 the remaining uncertainty/denial should turn into distaste. 

 

No, unlike your claims about everything you say about the game, that doesn't work here. We have a clear view of a piece of the world and everything I mentioned is visible to see, if you take the time to see them, and that is just from the reveal trailer. In that aspect, you are wrong. And yes, I have played the original Paper Mario games, even the one everyone loves, TTYD. I wouldn't even be in this discussion if I didn't. I haven't played Super Paper Mario nor Sticker Star, because I simply wasn't interested in them. I didn't want a more Platformy Mario, nor the concept of stickers.

This one though looks interesting, so I'm willing to give it a try. Perhaps you should do the same and at least wait before completely writing it off. Also, your comment about GameXplain just doesn't make sense. The videos are about Color Splash, and in depth ones too. The likes are positive outlooks of the game, after the likely kneejerk reaction they had from the reveal. This is fact. 



 

              

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Wish it was following as it would have look a lot more interesting.



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Cloudman said:

No, unlike your claims about everything you say about the game, that doesn't work here. We have a clear view of a piece of the world and everything I mentioned is visible to see, if you take the time to see them, and that is just from the reveal trailer. In that aspect, you are wrong. And yes, I have played the original Paper Mario games, even the one everyone loves, TTYD. I wouldn't even be in this discussion if I didn't. I haven't played Super Paper Mario nor Sticker Star, because I simply wasn't interested in them. I didn't want a more Platformy Mario, nor the concept of stickers.

This one though looks interesting, so I'm willing to give it a try. Perhaps you should do the same and at least wait before completely writing it off. Also, your comment about GameXplain just doesn't make sense. The videos are about Color Splash, and in depth ones too. The likes are positive outlooks of the game, after the likely kneejerk reaction they had from the reveal. This is fact. 

 

Sure it does, you think I'm not seeing the same things you are? My stance on the matter remains the same. That is a moot point anyway, as paper thin graphics are obviously much easier than fully 3D detailed models. I mean just look at Color Splash then at Mario Kart 8, a game that clearly took effort and is pushing the system, and try telling me Color Splash is up to par. Now, without having played Sticker Star you wont fully understand why it's an awful game, nor can you clearly see that Color Splash is basically Sticker Star HD.

The above is why I don't need to wait because with the information given I already know how it will play out, again, Sticker Star 2. GameXplain's discussion/analysis videos on it were made by them, and as clearly visible in the title, they're not purely Color Splash videos, but Gamexplains take on it. The reveal trailer, which is only about Color Splash itself, GameXplain has nothing to do with, Nintendo is who made it. The difference is pretty clear, people don't like Color Splash itself, but like what GameXplain has to say about it and the time n effort they put into making their videos. What doesn't make sense here? Do you seriously believe that in all those angry disappointed response videos, the reason people are liking them is because they have a positive outlook on Sticker Star, completely disregarding the actual content in the video? That's what wouldn't make sense.

 



Einsam_Delphin said:
Cloudman said:

No, unlike your claims about everything you say about the game, that doesn't work here. We have a clear view of a piece of the world and everything I mentioned is visible to see, if you take the time to see them, and that is just from the reveal trailer. In that aspect, you are wrong. And yes, I have played the original Paper Mario games, even the one everyone loves, TTYD. I wouldn't even be in this discussion if I didn't. I haven't played Super Paper Mario nor Sticker Star, because I simply wasn't interested in them. I didn't want a more Platformy Mario, nor the concept of stickers.

This one though looks interesting, so I'm willing to give it a try. Perhaps you should do the same and at least wait before completely writing it off. Also, your comment about GameXplain just doesn't make sense. The videos are about Color Splash, and in depth ones too. The likes are positive outlooks of the game, after the likely kneejerk reaction they had from the reveal. This is fact. 

 

Sure it does, you think I'm not seeing the same things you are? My stance on the matter remains the same. That is a moot point anyway, as paper thin graphics are obviously much easier than fully 3D detailed models. I mean just look at Color Splash then at Mario Kart 8, a game that clearly took effort and is pushing the system, and try telling me Color Splash is up to par. Now, without having played Sticker Star you wont fully understand why it's an awful game, nor can you clearly see that Color Splash is basically Sticker Star HD.

The above is why I don't need to wait because with the information given I already know how it will play out, again, Sticker Star 2. GameXplain's discussion/analysis videos on it were made by them, and as clearly visible in the title, they're not purely Color Splash videos, but Gamexplains take on it. The reveal trailer, which is only about Color Splash itself, GameXplain has nothing to do with, Nintendo is who made it. The difference is pretty clear, people don't like Color Splash itself, but like what GameXplain has to say about it and the time n effort they put into making their videos. What doesn't make sense here? Do you seriously believe that in all those angry disappointed response videos, the reason people are liking them is because they have a positive outlook on Sticker Star, completely disregarding the actual content in the video? That's what wouldn't make sense.

 

Of course Color Splash and MK8 can't be compared. The visual styles they go for are completely different, with paper, cardboard and anything with arts and crafts is completely different from something more... detailed of MK8. It's like trying to compare Tearaway to a more realistic PS4 game. They're different and doesn't work. It's a stylistic choice that doesn't make it any lesser of a game. And I don't care at all about Sticker Star. This game isn't about Sticker Star, it's about Color Splash. I'll be judging it solely on the game itself and not if it's like Sticker Star. I don't need to know anything about SS to play CS.

At this point, there is no point continuing. You are adamant on believing this game will be like Sticker Star, when there is very little info to base this on. Rather than caring what this game apparently 'isn't', I'm just going to wait on more info to see what it is before passing judgement. You are free to continue holding your opinion on the game, me my own. And yes, those likes are to show people are having a more positive outlook of the game Color Splash, as the content on the videos are to more closely analyze and predict possible scenarios on the game.



 

              

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Cloudman said:

Of course Color Splash and MK8 can't be compared. The visual styles they go for are completely different, with paper, cardboard and anything with arts and crafts is completely different from something more... detailed of MK8. It's like trying to compare Tearaway to a more realistic PS4 game. They're different and doesn't work. It's a stylistic choice that doesn't make it any lesser of a game. And I don't care at all about Sticker Star. This game isn't about Sticker Star, it's about Color Splash. I'll be judging it solely on the game itself and not if it's like Sticker Star. I don't need to know anything about SS to play CS.

At this point, there is no point continuing. You are adamant on believing this game will be like Sticker Star, when there is very little info to base this on. Rather than caring what this game apparently 'isn't', I'm just going to wait on more info to see what it is before passing judgement. You are free to continue holding your opinion on the game, me my own. And yes, those likes are to show people are having a more positive outlook of the game Color Splash, as the content on the videos are to more closely analyze and predict possible scenarios on the game.

 

That's besides the point, which is that not all styles require the same amount of effort, Paper is simply one of the lesser demanding ones.

Okay fine, stay in the dark on a crucial point in Paper Mario's history, just don't tell people to wait and see under the assumption they're purposely blinding themselves as you are.

"You are adamant on believing this game will be like Sticker Star, when there is very little info to base this on." Stop right there. There's plenty to base it on, way more than enough even, you just haven't noticed since you wouldn't even know what to look for without knowledge of Sticker Star. Yet again, literally the entirety of the trailer screamed Sticker Star. The characters, or rather the lack of, instead nothing but generic toads, the same as in SS. The battle system, a stripped and watered-down version of the classics with no experience, FP, BP, partners, or special moves, the same as SS. It uses a resource mechanic, the same as SS, just replace stickers with cards, which can be found in the field, only making battles pointless and better off avoided. Even those god damn Thing stickers are back. How you progress through the game is segmented into stages/levels that you beat by reaching a goal at the end and that's it. Further still, instead of an interconnected world with areas logically joined together they just have a world map. Yep, all that was also in Sticker Star. Even small nuances like the frame by frame animation, not even a hiyah or woohoo out of Mario, and the attack names, types, and their icons are taken straight from Sticker Star. It's Sticker Star 2 without a doubt, but sure wait for the trailers or the game release to tell you this, that's fine too.

You're just repeating what I've already debunked, but I'll ignore that for now. What of the many videos straight up knocking the game getting likes? Please explain that to me. Here's a good example if you need one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JBbcaLsyZI



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me too - I thought we were discussing the great Super Paper Mario.

I think colour splash will be Wii U and Wii U only!



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