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Einsam_Delphin said:
Cloudman said:

I actually think people hoping for this to bomb are the mean ones. Just because it's not the apparent game people are demanding, doesn't mean it should deserve to fail. And there are people still excited for this game. Don't ruin it for them. For all we know, it could turn out good, and it's a new idea. We shouldn't be quick to hate something that's not like other older games.

 

It's because they're calling it a Paper Mario game when it's clearly anything but that it should fail, for if it succeeds, chances are we'll never get a real Paper Mario game again. That's ruining it for everyone, as even the few actually interested in Color Splash will still be settling for less. Also it's not a new idea and it is exactly like an older game, that being Sticker Star.

Looks like a Paper Mario game to me, with some new mechanics that could be interesting. Just because it's missing party members does not mean it's going to be bad, nor does it mean that PM games will never have them again. We're not even certain if there won't be any. We barely got any info on the game. I think you should wait before quickly judging the game, as well as trying to speak for everyone that Color Splash is a bad and unwanted game.



 

              

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Cloudman said:

Looks like a Paper Mario game to me, with some new mechanics that could be interesting. Just because it's missing party members does not mean it's going to be bad, nor does it mean that PM games will never have them again. We're not even certain if there won't be any. We barely got any info on the game. I think you should wait before quickly judging the game, as well as trying to speak for everyone that Color Splash is a bad and unwanted game.

 

Yes it still has the lazy paper aesthetic, but otherwise it's not a Paper Mario game in literally every other way. The direct didn't even try to deny it, openly calling it an action adventure game, not an RPG. No partners are barely even a fraction of what's missing. Overall the game lacks characters, story, a cohesive connected world, a sense of progression, a competent battle system, a reason to even battle, I could go on and get really in depth, but basically the game is stripped of what made Paper Mario, Paper Mario. We saw the footage so we can be certain it's essentially Sticker Star 2, just replace Kertsi with a bucket and stickers with cards and paint. I can't speak for everyone of course but from what I've seen the majority do not want. I'ma check where the dislike bar for the reveal trailer is at now.

EDIT: Yup yup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkRU-O6URC8



Einsam_Delphin said:
Cloudman said:

Looks like a Paper Mario game to me, with some new mechanics that could be interesting. Just because it's missing party members does not mean it's going to be bad, nor does it mean that PM games will never have them again. We're not even certain if there won't be any. We barely got any info on the game. I think you should wait before quickly judging the game, as well as trying to speak for everyone that Color Splash is a bad and unwanted game.

 

Yes it still has the lazy paper aesthetic, but otherwise it's not a Paper Mario game in literally every other way. The direct didn't even try to deny it, openly calling it an action adventure game, not an RPG. No partners are barely even a fraction of what's missing. Overall the game lacks characters, story, a cohesive connected world, a sense of progression, a competent battle system, a reason to even battle, I could go on and get really in depth, but basically the game is stripped of what made Paper Mario, Paper Mario. We saw the footage so we can be certain it's essentially Sticker Star 2, just replace Kertsi with a bucket and stickers with cards and paint. I can't speak for everyone of course but from what I've seen the majority do not want. I'ma check where the dislike bar for the reveal trailer is at now.

EDIT: Yup yup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkRU-O6URC8

Ahem, the game is paper, so of course it's going to have that 'paper' feel and it is definitely not lazy. There was a lot of work put into it to make it feel like a paper crafted world done by a person in great detail. You can see the inbetween parts of cardboard, the texture of the construction paper, and the layers as well. It really does feel like a 3D space with a sort of depth, unlike previous Paper Mario games. Also, it still has RPG elements, just not in the traditional sense. There's still turn based combat, but done in a different way. And all your reasons why it's not a Mario game lack weight. The game is not even released, so are your claims are just baseless. Just wait for the game to come out before making such claims

Also, basing your evidence on the like/dislikes on the reveal video don't help you either. There is still a fair size of people who seem excited, and the other videos by GameXplain, the thoughts and impressions and analysis videos, those dislikes are shrunken to a very small size while the likes are even higher than that of the dislikes of the initial reveal.



 

              

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Einsam_Delphin said:

Wow, I didn't think you the mean type, actually hoping Nintendo is successful with their slap in the face to the fans.

Yes, Cloud is the one being mean...



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Squeezol said:
AZWification said:

I hope it actually comes out on the WiiU and bombs pretty badly.

:( That's not cool.

You know what else is not cool? The way Nintendo has been treating the Paper Mario franchise and its fanbase.



                
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Cloudman said:

Ahem, the game is paper, so of course it's going to have that 'paper' feel and it is definitely not lazy. There was a lot of work put into it to make it feel like a paper crafted world done by a person in great detail. You can see the inbetween parts of cardboard, the texture of the construction paper, and the layers as well. It really does feel like a 3D space with a sort of depth, unlike previous Paper Mario games. Also, it still has RPG elements, just not in the traditional sense. There's still turn based combat, but done in a different way. And all your reasons why it's not a Mario game lack weight. The game is not even released, so are your claims are just baseless. Just wait for the game to come out before making such claims

Also, basing your evidence on the like/dislikes on the reveal video don't help you either. There is still a fair size of people who seem excited, and the other videos by GameXplain, the thoughts and impressions and analysis videos, those dislikes are shrunken to a very small size while the likes are even higher than that of the dislikes of the initial reveal.

 

There was a lot of work put into it you say, I'm curious to know how you know that. Regardless, the whole point behind the Paper theme to begin with was to make the game easier to develop. Yes the game is different, in a bad way. Stripping away what makes a game great is naturally only going to make it worse. The game doesn't need to be released, the trailer already showed us what it is, Sticker Star 2. Literally everything shown from the characters to the battle system to the game progression is the same, hell Mario is even mute again. The game would have to be completely overhauled to be good at this point.

Those videos are content created by GameXplain. You can still like their discussion while hating the discussion topic.

 

Rain2 said:

Yes, Cloud is the one being mean...


I'm glad you agree!



Einsam_Delphin said:
Cloudman said:

Ahem, the game is paper, so of course it's going to have that 'paper' feel and it is definitely not lazy. There was a lot of work put into it to make it feel like a paper crafted world done by a person in great detail. You can see the inbetween parts of cardboard, the texture of the construction paper, and the layers as well. It really does feel like a 3D space with a sort of depth, unlike previous Paper Mario games. Also, it still has RPG elements, just not in the traditional sense. There's still turn based combat, but done in a different way. And all your reasons why it's not a Mario game lack weight. The game is not even released, so are your claims are just baseless. Just wait for the game to come out before making such claims

Also, basing your evidence on the like/dislikes on the reveal video don't help you either. There is still a fair size of people who seem excited, and the other videos by GameXplain, the thoughts and impressions and analysis videos, those dislikes are shrunken to a very small size while the likes are even higher than that of the dislikes of the initial reveal.

 

There was a lot of work put into it you say, I'm curious to know how you know that. Regardless, the whole point behind the Paper theme to begin with was to make the game easier to develop. Yes the game is different, in a bad way. Stripping away what makes a game great is naturally only going to make it worse. The game doesn't need to be released, the trailer already showed us what it is, Sticker Star 2. Literally everything shown from the characters to the battle system to the game progression is the same, hell Mario is even mute again. The game would have to be completely overhauled to be good at this point.

Those videos are content created by GameXplain. You can still like their discussion while hating the discussion topic.

I know that because the visuals are all there in the reveal trailer. Everything I have said about it had been from the footage, and not something I am assuming. This is just the beginning too. I imagine they can do even more with the paper aesthetics. And the idea of making it a paper theme was just the team loving the look and idea of the concept, looking like a sort of picture book, so they went with it. It wasn't to make development easier. I don't see anything that makes it bad. I just see a game with an interesting idea with a lot of potential. I'd like to know why it's different in a bad way. Also, as far as I know, Mario has always been mute in the game.

The video may have been made by GameXplain, but it doesn't change the fact that it focuses on Paper Mario, as well as turning some of that doubt into interest.



 

              

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Whatever happens, it's still going to be a bad Paper Mario.



Cloudman said:

I know that because the visuals are all there in the reveal trailer. Everything I have said about it had been from the footage, and not something I am assuming. This is just the beginning too. I imagine they can do even more with the paper aesthetics. And the idea of making it a paper theme was just the team loving the look and idea of the concept, looking like a sort of picture book, so they went with it. It wasn't to make development easier. I don't see anything that makes it bad. I just see a game with an interesting idea with a lot of potential. I'd like to know why it's different in a bad way. Also, as far as I know, Mario has always been mute in the game.

The video may have been made by GameXplain, but it doesn't change the fact that it focuses on Paper Mario, as well as turning some of that doubt into interest.

 

Erm you are just assuming since they didn't say whether or not the graphics took a lot of effort. Paper Mario was Intelligent Systems first foray into 3D, so they went with a paper aesthetic to make adjusting to such a huge change easier. Based on the rest of your post, I have to ask if you've played any of the Paper Mario games. If you haven't that might be why we're even having this discussion. Play Thousand Year Door then Sticker Star and all should become crystal clear.

Well that doesn't change the fact that the video was made by Gamexplain and the content within the video is their discussion about a game, not the game itself. It doesn't make any sense to dislike one video about a game and then like another video about it that provides no new information, so they must like it for it the GameXplainess, that's why I still like it atleast. Once they show off the game again still looking like Sticker Star 2 the remaining uncertainty/denial should turn into distaste. 



I hope they just make Super Paper Mario 2, get rid of the stamps and shit.

Also, release it on the NX, Wii U is dead.



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