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Imaginedvl said:

Definitely a matter of personal taste if you ask me.

I found Microsoft very good in interfaces. Esp. on Xbox One actually and I really enjoy Windows 10. They are really streamlining everything on Windows 10 PC, Windows Phone 10 and Xbox One. I just really love it.

Also: Microsoft is the number one software company (and by far). If you includes Apple, Google, Amazon etc then you are talking about Information Technologies companies which is a different category. None of Apple, Amazon or Google are close to Microsoft in term of software production. I know this is not the point of your OP and I'm not arguing but just FYI :)

On a side note: the second largest software company in the world is... Oracle... And in term of user interface they are the worse on the planet, it is unbelievable how counter-intuitive their interfaces are. But again this is a personnal oppion at the end.




It's true what you say. I'm coming from a perspective of simple and intuitive as the holy grail of UI. So my opinion is going to be different from someone who cares more about form and function for example. I really love and appreciate the Xbox One interface for it's functionality. There is customization and options ontop of options. Once you got the hang of it. It's really good. But give the controller to your friend and tell him "open netflix", "fix the internet", or "find a cheat using the Web browser" and they simply can't do it. He's going to need a step by step. I've never played a PS4 so I'm not trying to compare it to that. I mainly use Microsoft, Apple, and Nintendo products. Maybe I just need to start using smart glass again. 

I don't see how you can label Apple, Google, and Amazon as IT companies and not put Microsoft in there too. None of them could do what they do if not for the software they create. Apple is exactly like microsoft are they not? I think Oracle and Microsoft make most of their money from licensing to big organizations while Apple, Google, and Amazon have their market limited to individual consumers. Is that how you distinguished them? Or this there a metric that measures software output created by each company? I'm just wondering. I think of them as all being software companies and I rank them by how much money they generate plus their dominance in their respective markets.



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Definitely go faster than all of you using Kinect... Like 10 times.... I'm sure I save days compared to you over a year...

Now MS no matter how you flip it is still by far the biggest software company even compared to apple and Google... Heck they are so good at it every time google or apple sells some software they also make money...

And finally when I hear people say win 7 UI was more efficient than win 8 or 10... What a joke win 7 was so outdated and that start menu archaic architecture sucked balls big time the only reason people bought into it is because they needed to name something better than vista to feel trendy again... If you can't go faster with win 8 or 10 you're just too damn retro... Like my grandma preferring her featurephone to a smartphone...



snyps said:
Mistershine said:
2 step verification is never a bad idea and a button that says unavailable implies that you can't get the item, whereas a button that says bundle only is pretty self explanatory.

Please explain it to me 

You don't think it's pretty clear that if it says bundle only that you need to buy a bundle to get it?



Yeah I'm not a big fan off the xbox one UI esp compared to PS4 or 360.



Playstation interface is like just scrolling lists...



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Funny thing is original xbox had nice easy interface, Xbox 360 had the sliders my fave and NXE was good too then went downhill.



Mistershine said:

You don't think it's pretty clear that if it says bundle only that you need to buy a bundle to get it?

Oh I know what bundle means but in this context it should say unavailable. It cannot be purchased. Do me a favor and sign in to the microsoft store, go through the email verification so that you may shop, find the Jago "Bundle", and see if you can get it in your cart. You can't.. Microsoft doesn't understand the concept of "pretty clear".



DEAD_ORIGINAL said:
Funny thing is original xbox had nice easy interface, Xbox 360 had the sliders my fave and NXE was good too then went downhill.

I agree fully. That original UI is still the best on any console IMO. It was soooo freaking out of this world. Been nice if you could change colors but even green it felt so mechanical and scientific. If the Xbox one had an interface like that I'd be in heaven. The NXE was also good. It had that sense that your apps and system pages were being moved around in that digital environment. The sliders were definitely the most intuitive.

 

 

I bought the Xbox One just a few months before the OS overhaul and I didn't notice much change. It's always been pretty speedy for me. There's more verticallity now. Tiles look bigger. Still confusing and feature rich.



Windows 10 is fucking amazing, save for the odd hiccup now and then what with Microsoft and their service mentality.

OG Xbox UI is brilliant as well.



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snyps said:
DEAD_ORIGINAL said:
Funny thing is original xbox had nice easy interface, Xbox 360 had the sliders my fave and NXE was good too then went downhill.

I agree fully. That original UI is still the best on any console IMO. It was soooo freaking out of this world. Been nice if you could change colors but even green it felt so mechanical and scientific. If the Xbox one had an interface like that I'd be in heaven. The NXE was also good. It had that sense that your apps and system pages were being moved around in that digital environment. The sliders were definitely the most intuitive.

 

 

I bought the Xbox One just a few months before the OS overhaul and I didn't notice much change. It's always been pretty speedy for me. There's more verticallity now. Tiles look bigger. Still confusing and feature rich.

What i liked about sliders and NXE it was easy, Xbox live store, settings, games, and inside xbox which was cool sent u a message wathced that every week thing is these dashboards os were great for xbox, new one is too confusing and i play all the time my dad who has one couldnt even find settings!