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Thunderbird77 on 10 February 2016
Soundwave said:
Miyamotoo said:

Yes, and GC actually was quite good console, but for GC problem was best selling console in world, PS2. But after GC we had best seling Nintendo console ever.

But Wii U was bloody mess in every possible way, you can't compare any Nintendo console in number of mistakes Nintendo made with Wii U, thats why Wii U will be worst selling Nintendo console.

Like I wrote, I think it nearly impossible to repeat all mistakes Nintendo made with Wii U again, especially because after terrible Wii U sales with NX they will much better job in order to have much better sales. When we talk about NX sales, IMO only certain thing is that X will have much better sales than Wii U.

What I'm saying is just becasue you fix mistakes doesn't neccessarily mean you are rewarded with better sales. 

The PS2 was only about 20 million ahead of the GameCube and GameCube was even with the XBox at 0 when the GameCube launched, console NX will be probably more like 50-60 million behind the PS4 and 25-30 million behind the XBox One. 

So in that way it's a worse position than the GameCube was in a pretty significant way. 

20m is a huge advantage and ps2 had 99% of third party games as exclusives.

You really need to stop talking about NX as if it's a home console for sure and that it's "behind" ps4 or x1. If it's a HC, it will be a new gen, it doesn't have to catch up but it can, as nothing stops a new console from outselling the previous gen ones.



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Akeos on 10 February 2016

NX will be HC and it will be possible to play on TV, it will be open to smartphones games... So it doesn't in compétition with PS4 and xboxone..



S.T.A.G.E. on 10 February 2016
Nintyfan90 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Sounds like the canniablization of the Vita at the hands of the PS3. Its also harder to focus on two platforms when you cannot even arrage healthy third party for one of them.

Depends on the product, if they utilize the same software such as both are completely digital plats or both use cartridges then no they aren't cannibalizing each other. Ps3 and vita played different games.

I am in agreement that they haddifferent games, but some games were available on both platforms. Sony did this to remedy a lack of support for the platform by consciously gauging how they use their resources. The fact that they used new IP's for the multiplatform venture I think it hurt more than helped their caused. They should've just hired more third party if they couldn't internally handle the development.



Lawlight on 13 February 2016
Aielyn said:
Lawlight said:
It was going to be third place even if it released alongside the PS4/X1. There is no reason to think otherwise.

That's basically the equivalent of what they said about the Wii.

Not really. Unless you're saying that the NX will target non-gamers instead of core gamers.



Aielyn on 13 February 2016
Lawlight said:
Aielyn said:

That's basically the equivalent of what they said about the Wii.

Not really. Unless you're saying that the NX will target non-gamers instead of core gamers.

The Wii didn't "target" people. It tried to appeal to everybody. And I have no idea what NX will be doing, just as you don't. So making sweeping claims like you did is ignorant at best.

What people had been saying about the Wii, prior to the big reveal and the massive hypetrain, was that Nintendo were going to be lucky to break double digits with their new system, based on the fact that each previous system struggled compared with the previous one. Operating on the assumption that the future will just be a continuation of recent past trends is monumentally nonsensical.

But then, we all know that you're not trying to make well-thought-out, rational assertions based on consideration of all possibilities.



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Lawlight on 14 February 2016
Aielyn said:
Lawlight said:

Not really. Unless you're saying that the NX will target non-gamers instead of core gamers.

The Wii didn't "target" people. It tried to appeal to everybody. And I have no idea what NX will be doing, just as you don't. So making sweeping claims like you did is ignorant at best.

What people had been saying about the Wii, prior to the big reveal and the massive hypetrain, was that Nintendo were going to be lucky to break double digits with their new system, based on the fact that each previous system struggled compared with the previous one. Operating on the assumption that the future will just be a continuation of recent past trends is monumentally nonsensical.

But then, we all know that you're not trying to make well-thought-out, rational assertions based on consideration of all possibilities.

No, it did target specifics demographic groups. Unless they thought that core gamers wanted waggle.

True, I have no idea what the NX is but history tells us that if it targets gamers, they'll lose.



soulsamurai on 14 February 2016

Even if it releases now and has absolutely everything you could want from a console from graphics to games it's in a sticky situation, and i wouldn't even call it part of this generation really....it's like a gen and a half.....completely different rotation so it's hard to rack and stack it to other consoles and still say it's a success or a failure.....cause if it generally does well, but not enough sales to beat the other 2 console before a full generation gets released and others will say," IT didn't get enough sales! Worse console this gen!"...and on the other side of the fence you'll have people saying, "it needs two years to fully catch up and compare because of this release gap"....Their is A MILLION different excuses one could make if it does poor in general and it has a lot of odds against it.



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Aielyn on 14 February 2016
Lawlight said:
Aielyn said:

The Wii didn't "target" people. It tried to appeal to everybody. And I have no idea what NX will be doing, just as you don't. So making sweeping claims like you did is ignorant at best.

What people had been saying about the Wii, prior to the big reveal and the massive hypetrain, was that Nintendo were going to be lucky to break double digits with their new system, based on the fact that each previous system struggled compared with the previous one. Operating on the assumption that the future will just be a continuation of recent past trends is monumentally nonsensical.

But then, we all know that you're not trying to make well-thought-out, rational assertions based on consideration of all possibilities.

No, it did target specifics demographic groups. Unless they thought that core gamers wanted waggle.

True, I have no idea what the NX is but history tells us that if it targets gamers, they'll lose.

I'm a core gamer, and I quite enjoyed properly-done motion controls. "Waggle" is what third parties mostly did with it.