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Now I get that this isn't a fair comparison cause we're basically comparing developers across 2 continents against just one little country.

But despite that huge gap in the number of developers, recources available to them Japanese Devs are really dominating this gen so far, atleast in terms of highly acclaimed games.

Here's a quick look at the highest rated games this gen, meaning 90+ metascore.

Note: For multiplatform games, I am using the score from the version that has the most reviews, usually this gen that means the PS4 version as it's the one devs send to the reviewers.

Metal Gear Solid V- 93

Super mario 3D World- 93

Bloodborne- 92

The Witcher 3- 92

Super Smash Bros.- 92

Bayonetta 2- 91

As you can see only one out of the 6 titles to get a 90+ metascore is from a Western Studio.

 

Now things may change next year with several of western games looking like they could score above 90.

The ones I think have a shot at that are:

Uncharted 4, Mass Effect Andromeda, Gears of War 4, Horizon: Zero Dawn, Dreams. I specifically say these 5 games because they're either part of a franchise that usually gets those 90+ scores or is being made by developer who has delivered a 90+ title in the recent past.

But the future also looks quite bright for the Japanese side as well, the games coming from them that have a shot at similar critical acclaim include Xenoblade Chronicles X, Street Fighter V, Zelda Wii U, The Last Guardian, Gran Turismo Sport, Final Fantasy XV. Yes I know FFXV is a controversial pick, but let's not forget that all main enteries until XIII have a 90+ metascore, so it does have the potential.

I'm a bit confused by why people are always talking about how Japanese devs have lost their touch, when they're the ones delivering the majority of the very best games. 



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Don't forget Persona 5, it's going to be getting the high scores.

Doubt GTS will get high if it's low on content, though.

Well Western Studios delivered superb games on 2013 for the 7th gen, so they are getting a little later on the cycle, but Uncharted 4 is leading a nice boost there this next year.

Both fronts looks really solid, so glad Japan is getting more love again.



BraLoD said:
Don't forget Persona 5, it's going to be getting the high scores.

Doubt GTS will get high if it's low on content, though.

Well Western Studios delivered superb games on 2013 for the 7th gen, so they are getting a little later on the cycle, but Uncharted 4 is leading a nice boost there this next year.

Both fronts looks really solid, so glad Japan is getting more love again.


Not shitting on Western Devs by any means, I think by the end of the gen there will be more of these 90+ western games than Japanese ones, Which should be expected considering how many more western studios there are.

Just trying to give the Japanese devs the credit they deserve.



I think the industry has changed. During the PS2 era, gamers were more hard core. During the 360 era, gamers became both casual (for a time) and dominated by the dreaded dudebro. I think right now, the demographics have shifted back in favor of the people like us. I mean, you have COD, sure. But look at the games that are getting the most hype. Bloodbourne? Would a game like that have mattered during 2006? Probably not.



WOW! You make a really good point!!
I think when people say "Japanese games" people always thinks of those anime styled games. Of course thats just what I find.

 

Edit: oh and i cant believe 3 of them are only on Wii U! 



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I feel kinda clickbaited into this, you had single player games in mind while the statement is general. Needles to say, It is totally reversed in some other departments.



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AlfredoTurkey said:

I think the industry has changed. During the PS2 era, gamers were more hard core. During the 360 era, gamers became both casual (for a time) and dominated by the dreaded dudebro. I think right now, the demographics have shifted back in favor of the people like us. I mean, you have COD, sure. But look at the games that are getting the most hype. Bloodbourne? Would a game like that have mattered during 2006? Probably not.


The leading system dictates the trend.

The PS1/PS2 were dominant Japanese games eras, mostly mature games, that were dominated by an rather dev friendly japanese company and its systems.

360 lead the 7th gen hardcore gaming by being the dev friendly system and being an North American company it's game style shifted to it, more war, modern thematic games.

Even though the PS3 catched up and the Wii also performed better, the year lead and hardcore US dominance dictated it almost the whole gen.

Now it came back to the PS4, games are going back to being more about mature phantasy, it also remains with the roots from the past gen, but it's showing it's influence.

The same before that as well, Nintendo times being the major system dictated the more soft phantasy thematic that's their focus.

It becomes pretty clear when you look at it this way:

3rd/4th gen: Nintendo influence. Platform domination. Less focus on story and mature themes. Phantasy.

5th/6th gen: Sony influence. Nintendo roots still on 5th gen due transition. RPGs become very relevant. Expansion on genres popularity. Story driven games/ more mature phantasy. Platforms still relevant on 5th gen due Nintendo roots.

7th gen: Microsoft influence. Sony roots still there due to transition/take back. Shooters become huge with American popularity on exploring modern/future war thematics. Genres retracting to focus around this modern influence. Online model expansion and becoming highly relevant, pushed by Live firstly. J RPGs downfall.

8th gen: Sony influence. Microsoft roots still there due to transition. Modern war thematic still relevant because of it. Genres re-expansion. Easily adaptation to mature phantasy comeback. Japanese developers getting way better envyronment to try again.

That's basically the leading/influence company traits being reflected on the envyronment.

Sony influence is expansive as not focused on single/few genres, better for Japanese developers and still attractive for Western too.

Sony model drives success more easily, it's better for the envyronment IMO. All kinds of games going on, better for the big scope.

Jap devs have less power (money) now, so they also could use this better enryronment for them and are doing so.



I agree. There are more japanese games and better.
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BraLoD said:


The leading system dictates the trend.

The PS1/PS2 were dominant Japanese games eras, mostly mature games, that were dominated by an rather dev friendly japanese company and its systems.

360 lead the 7th gen hardcore gaming by being the dev friendly system and being an North American company it's game style shifted to it, more war, modern thematic games.

Even though the PS3 catched up and the Wii also performed better, the year lead and hardcore US dominance dictated it almost the whole gen.

Now it came back to the PS4, games are going back to being more about mature phantasy, it also remains with the roots from the past gen, but it's showing it's influence.

The same before that as well, Nintendo times being the major system dictated the more soft phantasy thematic that's their focus.

It becomes pretty clear when you look at it this way:

3rd/4th gen: Nintendo influence. Platform domination. Less focus on story and mature themes. Phantasy.

5th/6th gen: Sony influence. Nintendo roots still on 5th gen due transition. RPGs become very relevant. Expansion on genres popularity. Story driven games/ more mature phantasy. Platforms still relevant on 5th gen due Nintendo roots.

7th gen: Microsoft influence. Sony roots still there due to transition/take back. Shooters become huge with American popularity on exploring modern/future war thematics. Genres retracting to focus around this modern influence. Online model expansion and becoming highly relevant, pushed by Live firstly. J RPGs downfall.

8th gen: Sony influence. Microsoft roots still there due to transition. Modern war thematic still relevant because of it. Genres re-expansion. Easily adaptation to mature phantasy comeback. Japanese developers getting way better envyronment to try again.

That's basically the leading/influence company traits being reflected on the envyronment.

Sony influence is expansive as not focused on single/few genres, better for Japanese developers and still attractive for Western too.

Sony model drives success more easily, it's better for the envyronment IMO. All kinds of games going on, better for the big scope.

Jap devs have less power (money) now, so they also could use this better enryronment for them and are doing so.


I totally agree. Very insightful! My only question is... do people's tastes shift first? If I read what you said correctly, you're implying that people sort of just go with whatever platform is leading the way. Like they are sort of forced into it due to their platform of choice. But what if their tastes shift FIRST, which then dictates the platform they CHOOSE? 

It's an interesting question.



AlfredoTurkey said:

I think the industry has changed. During the PS2 era, gamers were more hard core. During the 360 era, gamers became both casual (for a time) and dominated by the dreaded dudebro. I think right now, the demographics have shifted back in favor of the people like us. I mean, you have COD, sure. But look at the games that are getting the most hype. Bloodbourne? Would a game like that have mattered during 2006? Probably not.

Nonsense. The ps2 was the king of the casuals, there's a reason it sold over 150 million.