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Forums - Sales Discussion - PS4 hit 50% marketshare, that's never happen with the Wii. But...

 

Which sales are more impressive?

Wii 68 39.53%
 
PS4 104 60.47%
 
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DonFerrari said:
Next let's compare Wii to ps2 and joke about how irrelevant GC was?

What were you expecting with this thread? To show Wii was the worst leader ever or that even when close to 50% marketshare Nintendo didn't get any support from 3rd parties?

LOL, I not even replie to this comment.

WRITE the thread.



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Ruler said:
Wii costed what? 200$? vs 400$ PS4

250€.

But as i already see, we have so many promotion with the PS4, that at this point the price is not the main point...



marley said:
The thing with market share is it's relative to the competition. There are a lot of underperformers this gen.


Agreed. Great point. The 360 was killing it at the start of it's generation. The only thing that held it back was supply issues if I remember correctly. This generation, it's basically just one console.

The only troubling thing is the fact that the PS2 did the same thing, but sold much better as well. That seems to indicate that the home console market is indeed, slowing.



Ryng_Tolu said:
Dr.Vita said:
And? PS4 still will outsell Wii.

And so, so much people say that is so impressive 50% of marketshare, but even if Wii never hit, the Wii sales are much more impressive than other console.

 

...And not. PS4 will not sell 100,000,000.

I agree with Ryng I think PS4 will end at 94M,I have a feeling this gen will be shorter,6 years



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Let's party that Wii were the fastest selling console of all time for 3 years or cry that it were the worst dominating leader, biggest drop, lowest tie ratio?

This thread looks much more like sore loser.



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Ryng_Tolu said:
Ruler said:
Wii costed what? 200$? vs 400$ PS4

250€.

But as i already see, we have so many promotion with the PS4, that at this point the price is not the main point...


We did not get many promotions in the first year even now there aren't many 'official' promotions from Sony themselves. Retailers have their own promotions which I'm pretty sure happened with the Wii.

What do you think would've happened if the PS4 costed $250?



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Hard to take this thread or the OP seriously when the numbers are so heavily cherry picked. Just USA and Japan and only 2015 vs. 2008?

Worldwide sales through April of the second year.

PS4: 22,339,639

Wii: 25,489,712

Still a lead for the Wii obviously, but not exactly the lead the OP was hoping to imply.

And of course 2008 was it's peak year. Not to mention that sales crumbled after 2010.



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Ryng_Tolu said:
Ruler said:
Wii costed what? 200$? vs 400$ PS4

250€.

But as i already see, we have so many promotion with the PS4, that at this point the price is not the main point...


I dont see promotion in my country



Ryng_Tolu said:
thismeintiel said:
kowenicki said:

If we assume pessimistic lifetime sales of 40m for Xbox one and 15m for WiiU then the PS4 would need 130m to have 70%.

Technically, 128M.  And 116M for 68%.  Hardly FAR better.

And 40M isn't exactly pessimistic for XBO.  I'd say ~30M is.  If someone guessed ~40M at this point, I'd say they would be being realistic.  50M+ is optimistic.

I see around 60 / 65 % MS for PS4...

WU ~ 19,000,000

XBO ~ 35,000,000

PS4 ~ 92,000,000

Earlier this gen, I thought the Wii U was going to sell ~20M, however, with the announcement of their next console (rumored to be both a home console and a handheld) coming next year and nothing really on the horizon after Zelda (if that hasn't already moved onto to being cross-gen or NX exclusive), I think sales are going to drop even lower than they are, now.  I'm thinking more along the lines of ~16M, with a max  of ~18M.

Your XBO seems pretty reasonable.  Again, originally I thought it was going to end higher, much higher.  ~60M+.  But, after seeing its lows around the world, even the US, I have changed my opinion.  The only real reason the XBO has done relatively well the past few months, especially the holidays, is because of the firesales and endless deals MS has been having for it.  MS won't subsidize its sales forever.  This year will most likely be its peak year, with Halo 5 and probably the last big moneyhatting move (TR as a timed exclusive), as well as a price cut to $299 to answer the PS4 cut this year.  There's even rumors they are starting to bow out of big 3rd party advertising deals, with Sony picking up COD this year.  I'm guessing ~40M, ~42M max.

Here's where your estimates go wrong.  No market leader has sold less than 100M since Gen 5.  This gen will be no different.  Even if the PS4 peaks next year, like you believe it will, it will have a very gradual drop the following years.  2016 should be a great year and 2017 should, at the very least, come close to matching 2016 sales, since we should see the launch of the Slim (if it hasn't launched already) and a cut to $199, as well as many other 1st party exclusives from devs we still haven't heard from.  2018 should be another good year, since it will be a full year at $199, plus some great late gen games, like Sony always does.  It shouldn't be til 2019, with a possible launch of the PS5, til we see some real drastic drops.  It'll also see stronger sales than the PS3 after its successor is launched, as it's more popular and I wouldn't be surprised to see its price able to drop to $149.  I'm guessing ~125M, max ~140M.

So, with my estimates, without maxes, that gives us:

PS4 - 125M (69%)
XBO - 40M (22%)
Wii U - 16M (9%)