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Dev Acknowledges Bloodborne's "Poor Loading Time" On PS4, Second Patch In Development To Improve It 

24 Mar 2015 By Sehran Shaikh


From Software's PlayStation 4 exclusive, Bloodborne is finally out on retail shelves across the globe. All those rumors about long loading time of Bloodborne has been officially confirmed as TRUE by From Software and developer has assured PlayStation 4 gamers that it will be addressed in Second patch.

 

A press statement from From Software on Bloodborne Long Load Time issue reads:

Earlier this week, a user on Reddit posted a short gameplay footage of Bloodborne showcasing how much time the game takes to load after a death of a player, the time calculated was "35 to 40" seconds. You can check out the footage here, it showcase the time Bloodborne takes to load-up again after player's death.

Does this long load time affect your gameplay experience in any way? Share your opinion with us in the comment section below.



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Just think of the time in loading screens as an opportunity to take a breath and calm down from the rage of death lol



hopefully the patch is out soon. i will be getting this at a later date when the price is cheaper, by then performance and loading updates will be ready for it.



I thought it was deliberate, to give you a chance to calm down and collect your thoughts before facing your doom all over again.

But seriously, even if they can't reduce the load times by much at least have something interesting on screen, some gameplay hints, some info about the lore of the world, even some cool concept art or screen shots.



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been playing it all night and the load times have not bothered me. I died a lot at the beginning too (1st souls game). The load times definitely seem worse when you are watching a stream (for obvious reasons). I usually spent the load time deciding if it was worth it to go back and get my echos or decide to do something different, either that or a ran and got a drink. Like I said barely noticed it.

That said if they improve it I will be happy, but it is not affecting my experience at all.



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It's here at last. For anyone yet to pick up a PlayStation 4, and in particular fans of the Souls series, Bloodborne's release today could mark a justifiable tipping point. Having edged our way through the opening Yarnham city area, early impressions suggest another genuine triumph by From Software - and we can now provide a spoiler-free analysis of what's in store. The team's beautiful, horror-inflected world is no doubt a high point, but as with its previous games, there are also obvious technical issues that go alongside its ambition.

And where better to start than the beginning? Below is a lengthy, ten minute frame-rate analysis, taken from the first moment we're set loose with a saw-cleaver. Barring a few tactical cuts (to spare you the lengthy loading screens between deaths), the video runs more or less in sequence right up to the first major boss. Understandably, this is a series that sells on its mystery - but a deep slice of this single area tells us much about where Bloodborne stands tall, and where it falls short.

Running with update 1.01 (weighing in at 2.69GB), the day one patch is essential. Game performance and stability is improved according to its patch notes, and it also adds the game's crucial multiplayer features. However, in line with embargo conditions set to press, we're advised by Sony to avoid online play up to release, meaning our frame-rate tests run without any potential strain of co-op play.

So what's the story? Well the bad news is quite simply that, despite implementing a 30fps cap, Bloodborne struggles to run at a smooth frame-rate. Across the breadth of our tests in both Central Yarnham and the Hunter's Dream hub area, genuine drops are infrequent, but a factor that drags performance down to brief lows of 24fps. Rolling through Havok-based destructible objects (which populate the world in incredible number this time), attacking too many townsfolk at once, and also the use of alpha transparencies are to blame. Essentially, it's the usual culprits for this series.


A frame-rate analysis of Bloodborne. The complex Yarnham area runs at a locked 30fps, but frame-pacing issues and occasional drops prevent the action from being smooth.
But this alone isn't a major issue. Such drops show a 60fps target was always a stretch for a game running with this level of detail - the world filled as it is with a staggering density of objects. Every new area is cluttered with points of interest, from coffins twisted in chains, looming gargoyles, derelict wagons and crooked iron fences. It's a richly bleak sprawl set on cobblestones, tightly wound, and yet its vistas broad enough to show your small place in the city.

This high level of geometry is unlike anything we've seen from the studio before. As ever, level-of-detail (LOD) transitions are often too discrete to catch by eye, with the worst occurring for just a split-second on loading a new area. There are twists and turns that catch the engine off-guard too, but for the most part it streams in assets without a sweat.

And yet something is awry when playing Bloodborne. Its sub-30fps frame-rate drops may be infrequent, but on close analysis the bigger issue here is in its frame-pacing. As it turns out, From Software's implementation of a 30fps cap means that, as promised, we do get an average refresh at that number near-constantly throughout Yarnham city. The problem? As we've seen with the launch builds of Need for Speed: Rivals and Destiny, an incorrect ordering of frames can cause a nasty stuttering to motion.

Bloodborne's world is gorgeously detailed. The organic, often crooked look to the Hunter's Dream here shows a high level of attention to every twist and turn.
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1/7 Bloodborne's world is gorgeously detailed. The organic, often crooked look to the Hunter's Dream here shows a high level of attention to every twist and turn.
Though its 30fps average is technically correct, Bloodborne often produces two unique frames followed by two duplicates - rather than one after another - creating a perception of frame-rate drops throughout. It's not smooth in motion at all as a result, and frame-time updates swing erratically between 16ms and 66ms - and sometimes higher. It's an unfortunate oversight by From Software. However, we have seen both Bungie and EA Gothenburg react to the issue in each case, correcting their games soon after launch. We hope this will be the case for Bloodborne as well.

Bloodborne's other pending issue is its loading times. Longer than any Souls title before it, reviving at a lamp in Central Yarnham takes between 40-45 seconds - a patience-testing number given the frequency of death in this game. It's also a nuisance due to the game's hub-world structure, where each level loads from the Hunter's Dream area, which in itself takes 12 seconds to load. The obvious question is to what extent upgrading to an SSD might solve the issue. We gave this a test, swapping out the stock PS4 drive for a Sandisk Extreme Pro 480GB SSD, and find that loading times are reduced by around 25 per cent overall.

The SSD upgrade has a cumulative effect. After dying over and over, plus warping back and forth, a 25 per cent saving on the time spent looking at the loading screen could seriously add up by the time the game is complete. It also makes each of the (many) losses a bit easier to take; the last thing we want is a lengthy wait for another shot at a tricky section, and this upgrade at least softens the blow. It doesn't pull it back in line with Dark Souls titles' turnaround, which tended to reload within 10-20 seconds on PS3. However, until From Software swoops in with a patch to optimise this aspect, upgrading your PS4's to an SSD is easily the best option for a fresh Bloodborne playthrough.

Bloodborne Loading Times Stock PS4 500GB HDD Sandisk Extreme Pro 480GB SSD
First arrival at Hunter's Dream 13.9 seconds 10.7 seconds
Warping to Iosefka's Clinic 36.9 seconds 26.6 seconds
Warping to Central Yarnham lamp 41.2 seconds 29.9 seconds
Respawn at Central Yarnham 44.4 seconds 31.1 seconds
Return to Hunter's Dream from Central Yarnham 12.1 seconds 9.6 seconds
Putting the frustrating loading times aside, even based on its early stages Bloodborne stands up among From Software's most memorable creations. It's a horror-tinged fantasy that's sure to magnetise Souls fans towards Sony's new machine, despite some technical shortfalls that can frustrate. It may be that these are part and parcel with upholding the amazing scale of its world, but it's very possible a future patch will smooth some rougher points, in particular the unusual frame-pacing. On that note we'll have to wait and see.

Nevertheless the core of the adventure is engaging, with a game design built from the ground up for PlayStation 4 hardware. The bigger story going forward is how its technical direction differs from the upcoming Dark Souls 2 remaster on PS4. On current evidence, both have their obvious advantages, though later areas in Bloodborne will show just how crucial that 30fps cap is in allowing for a more visually complex world design.



That stuttering effect which i see alot during kevin van ords video would highly frustating since it requires precision combat



Man, you guys would never have survived the commodore 64 days.



Tachikoma said:
Man, you guys would never have survived the commodore 64 days.


Fond memory of playing Maniac Mansion, Spy VS Spy, Pirates! and Defender of the Crown, among other titles, on the C64/128.




Hynad said:
Tachikoma said:
Man, you guys would never have survived the commodore 64 days.


Fond memory of playing Maniac Mansion, Spy VS Spy, Pirates! and Defender of the Crown, among other titles, on the C64/128.


I fondly recall nobody ever really moaning about the load times, too, even though the speed difference between cassette and floppy disk was so high :P