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Ka-pi96 said:
Slarvax said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Isn't it pretty much the same thing? US people call it college, non US people call it University?

In Canada, college is like a pre-uni or another year of highschool. If we can trust my sister that is. 

Same in the UK

5-11 Primary School
11-16 Secondary School
16-18 College
18-21 University


That's interesting. In the U.S. we have:

6-11 elementary school

12-14 middle school

15-18 high school

19-22 college

23+ grad school or job (most often job)



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I recall middle school and that's it. For all the wrong reasons though.

College is much better, I'm studying something that I actually like with that I actually like, and instructors that (again) actually like.



School is a waste of time because it teaches you to become an employee. You here it all the time, "Go to school, get a better job." It doesn't matter what school 'teaches' you because it has almost zero application to real life and how real life actually works. Look at MBA's, 9/10 times they become glorified bean counters because school can't teach you hard work or motivation it just tells you what to write down and you are most likely to pass.

School is soooo easy to get good grades but it teaches no valuable knowledge.

Go ahead, go to school and get a better job, the more money you have the more money you spend. Your not getting ahead of anyone when your living from paycheck to paycheck. School never taught me about financials, the stock market, taxes, business.

If I could have all the time from school back I would skip that valueless part of my life and go straight to building my life, my business and my portfolio. I'd be retired alot!!! faster if the school system knew anything valuable.



when i finished undergrad i didn't feel much difference.... because i still have to study to get my RN license....

i studied with my college buddies... which was really fun.

After i got my license it felt really good... it made me feel i accomplished something.

for my grad school.... it felt meh....



 

Well i'm a junior in high school currently still and I have pretty mixed feelings. Obviously I don't mind going to school because I get to see my friends but at the same time I feel like it's just holding me back and I just want to go my own way. But also at the same time if it wasn't for school I wouldn't be able to see my friends as much and my social life probably wouldn't be as big as it is now. So basically I feel like I want to leave and go my own way but at the same time feel like i'm not ready to leave yet.



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A_C_E said:

 It doesn't matter what school 'teaches' you because it has almost zero application to real life and how real life actually works. 


If I could have all the time from school back I would skip that valueless part of my life and go straight to building my life, my business and my portfolio. I'd be retired alot!!! faster if the school system knew anything valuable.

Because everyone's goal in life is to own a business, invest in the stock market, and retire as fast as possible? Right. There are plenty of professions that honestly require a formal education: engineers, doctors, and lawyers are a few more "practical" examples. Behind them creating the framework which they rely on are research scientists.  And I say this as somebody very critical of "schooling." 



Slarvax said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Isn't it pretty much the same thing? US people call it college, non US people call it University?

In Canada, college is like a pre-uni or another year of highschool. If we can trust my sister that is. 


Depends where. In Quebec colleges are known as CEGEPs and those are pre-university schools you take for 2 years. In turn, university would end a year faster than most other places. How it works is usually:

Primary (Grade 1-6) You'd be about 12 years old when you graduate.
Secondary (Grade 7-11) You'd be around 17 years old normally.
CEGEP/Pre-University (2 years) 19
University (3 Years for a Bachelors/Undergraduate) 22

So everything takes about the same time as the US.

On a side note I'm studying in university and it's the first time I really have to apply myself and coming to school on days off (and weekends) to get stuff done. I don't find the workload particularly hard, it's just that there's so much of it and procrastinating is becoming more and more impossible (haha, life of a slacker). At this rate I doubt I'll be able to finish my program on time considering they're asking me to take summer classes and I have to work full time at the time to afford my tuition.

Do I miss High School? Eh, it was alright towards the end (middle school is the worst seeing as everyone is so insecure and immature). But all my good friends I've made during those years I still hang out regularly so that's what matters.



I'll be sad. I'm at Penn State and it's the best party school in the nation. There's something here for everyone and it's just damn fun living with people all around my age. There's always a group with the same interests. I never found people to game, watch movies, or play basketball with this easily in my little town back home which is where I'll be going. Oh well




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sc94597 said:

Because everyone's goal in life is to own a business, invest in the stock market, and retire as fast as possible? Right. There are plenty of professions that honestly require a formal education: engineers, doctors, and lawyers are a few more "practical" examples. Behind them creating the framework which they rely on are research scientists.  And I say this as somebody very critical of "schooling." 

Ummm not everyones goal is to own a business, invest in the stock market and retire as fast as possible but if you asked everyone in the world where they would 'want' to be when they're 50-65 years old they will most likely say retired and rich. And here they are going to school so they become retired and rich but 99% of the population isn't rich and quite often when someone does end up retiring they don't have any financial breathing room because school doesn't teach you anything about finance.

There's a reason why so many people are attracted to the idea of being rich and retired but only 1% of the population actually is. I'm not saying don't educate yourself because knowledge is extremely important, I'm saying instead of listening to someone who teaches for a paycheck go out and actually DO something.

When I say school, I'm not talking about the courses that are offered by individuals who started their own business so that they could teach you their findings, mentor you, mold you into success. I'm talking primarily about government funded schooling.

You know why kindergarten, elementary, middle school, highschool are all free? The government is sending you on an specific path where they can tax you and make back more money from you then it cost to put you in school in the first place. The average employee gets taxed 40%, small business owner gets taked 60%, not very attractive when 80% of the population doesn't like their job. A business owner gets taxed only 20%, an investor gets taxed 0%.

Most people don't know these things but most people went to school, and I feel sorry for the people that are going to live paycheck to paycheck working for that promotion so that they can spend more money and still live paycheck to paycheck and be unhappy working as an employee. These people could have started their own thing, but school doesn't teach you that, school teaches you to become an employee.



It was alright. I started at the bottom, but all through out high school, I met a ton of people and basically rose above the ranks in popularity. At my senior year, I knew people from just about every clique.

I felt relieved to be done and anxious to go to University. Took me a while to find my calling but I'm making it.



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