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Do you think Black Ops 3's sales will be near Black Ops 2 levels?

Yes 50 33.11%
 
No 68 45.03%
 
Maybe 33 21.85%
 
Total:151
pokymon90 said:
thedawghousev2 said:
TheFallen said:
For Zombies alone, I'm hyped for BO3. It's the first 3 year dev cycle for Treyarch too. Make it This gen exclusive too.


that's what i was thinking. if it's a current gen exclusive, we will see 10 million on a single console again.


What system?

ps4, imagine if they did the marketing for ps4 instead of xbox one this time, it would be even bigger in my opinion. regardless of which system gets the marketing, i think black ops 3 will sell 10 million on ps4 just to clarify



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My body is so ready for Blops 3. Just zombies is enough to make me buy the game and the DLC as well. Treyarch never disappoints with zombies. Tranzit wasn't the best but every other map after it was epic. All Blops 1 zombies maps are classics.

I seriously can't wait. Ghosts was disappointing but AW has killed my interest for the series. I believe Treyarch will bring it back in a big way. Their MP is fun too. I was master prestige in BO2.



 

thedawghousev2 said:
pokymon90 said:
thedawghousev2 said:
TheFallen said:
For Zombies alone, I'm hyped for BO3. It's the first 3 year dev cycle for Treyarch too. Make it This gen exclusive too.


that's what i was thinking. if it's a current gen exclusive, we will see 10 million on a single console again.


What system?

ps4, imagine if they did the marketing for ps4 instead of xbox one this time, it would be even bigger in my opinion. regardless of which system gets the marketing, i think black ops 3 will sell 10 million on ps4 just to clarify


I just think that 10m would be too much too soon IMO. I would predict a Black Ops 3 to maybe sell 8 million on a PS4. I mean...once Call of Duty Ghosts 2 comes out 11 months later the market will drop for it anyway.



UltimateUnknown said:
My body is so ready for Blops 3. Just zombies is enough to make me buy the game and the DLC as well. Treyarch never disappoints with zombies. Tranzit wasn't the best but every other map after it was epic. All Blops 1 zombies maps are classics.

I seriously can't wait. Ghosts was disappointing but AW has killed my interest for the series. I believe Treyarch will bring it back in a big way. Their MP is fun too. I was master prestige in BO2.


oh my god i can't wait to see next gen zombies, i hope they allow more zombies in the map at one time to make it harder and more epic. quick question, did you notice that the zombie sounds in black ops 2 were really silent compared to world at war and black ops?



pokymon90 said:
thedawghousev2 said:
pokymon90 said:
thedawghousev2 said:
TheFallen said:
For Zombies alone, I'm hyped for BO3. It's the first 3 year dev cycle for Treyarch too. Make it This gen exclusive too.


that's what i was thinking. if it's a current gen exclusive, we will see 10 million on a single console again.


What system?

ps4, imagine if they did the marketing for ps4 instead of xbox one this time, it would be even bigger in my opinion. regardless of which system gets the marketing, i think black ops 3 will sell 10 million on ps4 just to clarify


I just think that 10m would be too much too soon IMO. I would predict a Black Ops 3 to maybe sell 8 million on a PS4. I mean...once Call of Duty Ghosts 2 comes out 11 months later the market will drop for it anyway.

http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/40132/Global/

Xbox 360 and PS3 had a lower install base than what the PS4 WILL have by the time PS4 comes out. The Xbox 360 version of MW2 and the PS3 version of MW2 both went on to sell 13 million on Xbox and 10 million on PS3. PS4 also sells software much better than those two consoles.



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Black Ops was the only one I ever enjoyed, everything but the singleplayer was fun, not really great or memorable, but fun. If BO3 it's a thing (I'l preferably have something more original, I know it's CoD, but c'mon) it may be the only CoD I own for the whole gen, like BO1 was for the previous one. Every game is pretty much exactly the same so owning more than one for each gen it's a bit of a dumb purchase.



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the-pi-guy said:
Yeah, I'm excited.
I loved the multiplayer and single player for Black Ops II, so I hope they keep that up.
Zombies was dreadful, hope they go back to BO I or WaW zombies.


Oh goodness.

BO2 multiplayer was the worst in the series. At it's core BO2 is broken and unbalanced. It was designed for competitive gamers and yet is possibly the least skillful in the series. The lag compensation built into matchmaking completely defeats the competitive focus and yet they forced SBMM into pubs. Talk about dreadful.

As for single player, the only redeeming quality was that you could customize your class before each mission. Both Black Ops campaigns imo are boring to play, but Black Ops 1 had the better story. Having three endings is an interesting decision, but the writing was bad so why would care about the endings. To me the Modern Warfare series had better characters and story. All Infinity Ward games, even Ghosts had better gameplay and setpieces. I only play through campaign 1x on veteran. I'm not a huge fan of any in the series because I never bought COD for campaign...even COD 2 which was my first Call of Duty. 

As for zombies, BO2 zombies had a garbage storyline, but maps like Die Rise, Mob of the Dead, and Origins are improvements to the series gameplay wise. I'm not a huge zombies fan, but I do get to round 50-100 at least once on each map. To me the main problem with zombies is the overall lack of maps. I just can't justify playing one map for three months. That's why I think the custom zombies community is so big on youtube, but I'm not a big PC gamer so I never invested into it. However, I can't see how maps like Nacht or Der Riese are better than Die Rise and Origins. I guess I can understand if the atmosphere and story are that big of a part of the gameplay to you.

Black Ops 1 in my opinion was the only good Treyarch game. It wasn't free of problems, but it had variety, balance, and a decent fun factor. COD 3 was meh, COD 5 was meh, but Black Ops 2 probably killed the series. Let's be honest, MW3's major problem was lag compensation. Gameplay wise it was still a pretty fun game. Black Ops 2 sucked the fun out of COD and kept the broken lag compensation.

There's a lot of factors why COD is declining. I would argue netcode issues and Black Ops 2 are the biggest. I think Black Ops 2 changed the community in a very bad way. The competitive scene is overreaching and ruining the game for the casual audience which make up the majority of COD players. People also got tired of the bad lag compenstion and they no longer even see a fair game when they see it. People got so used to an unfair game like BO2 that they complained with Ghosts actually got netcode right. Ghosts actually has one of the lowest autoaims in the series, but there was still a percieved increase in the TTK because lag compensation was fixed. In reality, the gunplay in Ghosts was in line with any Infinity Ward game. There was no increase in TTK 

As for Black Ops 3 selling big it depends on a lot of things. Did Treyarch learn from BO2? Are they going to continue to alienate the majority by putting in SBMM in pubs and forcing competitive down our throats? Are they going to launch with broken netcode that renders each gunfight pointless? Is the game going to have perk balance? Are snipers going to get special treatment? What time period will this game take place?  

Treyarch's game will probably outsell Ghosts and Advanced Warfare. The console transition alone has contributed to some of the drop off. Zombies will provide a small boost, and Treyarch's game will probably be in a familiar timeline rather than a futuristic one. If it's a future game like BO2 then it's going to lose against Star Wars Battlefront and Halo 5. I don't see it selling BO2 units. To me COD will never get numbers like that again unless under one of the following scenerios: a free to play remix of classics (like the one in China), a new modern warfare, or a completely new engine that shatters our expectations (which is the least likely). We are proably several years off a new Modern Warfare. This gives people like Zampella plenty of time to develop their own modern FPS providing that Respawn gives up the Titanfall brand. The future of COD is anything but certain.



nope dont think so



teamsilent13 said:
the-pi-guy said:
Yeah, I'm excited.
I loved the multiplayer and single player for Black Ops II, so I hope they keep that up.
Zombies was dreadful, hope they go back to BO I or WaW zombies.


Oh goodness.

BO2 multiplayer was the worst in the series. At it's core BO2 is broken and unbalanced. It was designed for competitive gamers and yet is possibly the least skillful in the series. The lag compensation built into matchmaking completely defeats the competitive focus and yet they forced SBMM into pubs. Talk about dreadful.

As for single player, the only redeeming quality was that you could customize your class before each mission. Both Black Ops campaigns imo are boring to play, but Black Ops 1 had the better story. Having three endings is an interesting decision, but the writing was bad so why would care about the endings. To me the Modern Warfare series had better characters and story. All Infinity Ward games, even Ghosts had better gameplay and setpieces. I only play through campaign 1x on veteran. I'm not a huge fan of any in the series because I never bought COD for campaign...even COD 2 which was my first Call of Duty. 

As for zombies, BO2 zombies had a garbage storyline, but maps like Die Rise, Mob of the Dead, and Origins are improvements to the series gameplay wise. I'm not a huge zombies fan, but I do get to round 50-100 at least once on each map. To me the main problem with zombies is the overall lack of maps. I just can't justify playing one map for three months. That's why I think the custom zombies community is so big on youtube, but I'm not a big PC gamer so I never invested into it. However, I can't see how maps like Nacht or Der Riese are better than Die Rise and Origins. I guess I can understand if the atmosphere and story are that big of a part of the gameplay to you.

Black Ops 1 in my opinion was the only good Treyarch game. It wasn't free of problems, but it had variety, balance, and a decent fun factor. COD 3 was meh, COD 5 was meh, but Black Ops 2 probably killed the series. Let's be honest, MW3's major problem was lag compensation. Gameplay wise it was still a pretty fun game. Black Ops 2 sucked the fun out of COD and kept the broken lag compensation.

There's a lot of factors why COD is declining. I would argue netcode issues and Black Ops 2 are the biggest. I think Black Ops 2 changed the community in a very bad way. The competitive scene is overreaching and ruining the game for the casual audience which make up the majority of COD players. People also got tired of the bad lag compenstion and they no longer even see a fair game when they see it. People got so used to an unfair game like BO2 that they complained with Ghosts actually got netcode right. Ghosts actually has one of the lowest autoaims in the series, but there was still a percieved increase in the TTK because lag compensation was fixed. In reality, the gunplay in Ghosts was in line with any Infinity Ward game. There was no increase in TTK 

As for Black Ops 3 selling big it depends on a lot of things. Did Treyarch learn from BO2? Are they going to continue to alienate the majority by putting in SBMM in pubs and forcing competitive down our throats? Are they going to launch with broken netcode that renders each gunfight pointless? Is the game going to have perk balance? Are snipers going to get special treatment? What time period will this game take place?  

Treyarch's game will probably outsell Ghosts and Advanced Warfare. The console transition alone has contributed to some of the drop off. Zombies will provide a small boost, and Treyarch's game will probably be in a familiar timeline rather than a futuristic one. If it's a future game like BO2 then it's going to lose against Star Wars Battlefront and Halo 5. I don't see it selling BO2 units. To me COD will never get numbers like that again unless under one of the following scenerios: a free to play remix of classics (like the one in China), a new modern warfare, or a completely new engine that shatters our expectations (which is the least likely). We are proably several years off a new Modern Warfare. This gives people like Zampella plenty of time to develop their own modern FPS providing that Respawn gives up the Titanfall brand. The future of COD is anything but certain.


GOD DAMN. anyways, i think black ops 2 will be huge because black ops 2 had 320,000+ people playing on both the 360 and ps3 a few days before advanced warfare released, and that's not including the number of people playing zombies and single player. the total people playing black ops 2 that day was probably 750,000. honestly this game will be huge. black ops 2 multiplayer is just fun, trust me, it pissed me off more than anything before, but the game just grew on you over time. the same way with the youtube call of duty community. everyone thought the game sucked when it was the current game, but over time everyone started liking it. you seem like one of those infinity ward lovers (hopefully i don't come across as a douscebag for saying that, they made great games) because of the hit detection they have, which is cool, but i think black ops 2's hit detection was great, it just lagged a lot. so yeah, they do need to fix that, and i think they will. the decline of the franchise will push them to do better.



I loved WAW I liked BO and i didnt like BO2 mostly because they went for future and they ruined the zombies story somehow, i wish they make the WAW2.



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