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FPS doesn't correlate with hardware power. Many NES games ran at 60 FPS. Many developers "trade" some of those frames for better visuals.

So saying that the PS5 will be 4k 60 FPS is a dead giveaway that you are not credible when it comes to talking about tech specs.



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melbye said:
As powerful As Three PS4 duct-taped together

If it ends up around 12 Tflops, it ll be 12/1.84 = x 6.52  or ~7 duct-taped PS4s :)



Teeqoz said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

What I'd LIKE them to do? Release something that has a power leap of PS2 to PS3. I'd like them to eat the cost on hardware and then recoup on software, like the industry use to do oh... forever until this generation?

What WILL they do? Probably exactly the opposite of that and pull another PS4/Xbox One where it's basically a PS4 Pro 1.5. They'll try and tell us it's next generation because the OS is "snappier" or how great it is at uploading video streams that only 1% will actually be able to monetize to any useful degree.

The only time Nintendo ever sold their consoles at a loss were the Wii U and post pricecut 3DS.... Sony did eat some cost on the PS1 and PS2, and they ate an enormous cost on the PS3, which contributed to almost bankrupting them.... Yeah, somehow I don't think that's a good idea. You'd kill the industry.

Had the industry NOT done what I said, it wouldn't even have MADE it to PS3 because that's how it operated from Atari 2600 to then.



AlfredoTurkey said:
Teeqoz said:

The only time Nintendo ever sold their consoles at a loss were the Wii U and post pricecut 3DS.... Sony did eat some cost on the PS1 and PS2, and they ate an enormous cost on the PS3, which contributed to almost bankrupting them.... Yeah, somehow I don't think that's a good idea. You'd kill the industry.

Had the industry NOT done what I said, it wouldn't even have MADE it to PS3 because that's how it operated from Atari 2600 to then.

But.... the industry hasn't done what you said. Nintendo never did, except for the Wii U and 3DS, which coincidentally were their worst performing consoles ever. The PS3 also was Sony's worst performing console ever, despite Sony eating a much larger loss on it than on the PS1 and 2.



My prediction? The PS5 GPU will be beefy enough to run 4k at 30-60fps and thus won't launch until mid to late 2019 at it's earliest.

They almost have to with the PS4 Pro being so under powered compared to the Xbox One X. The One X is even out selling the Pro now, so most current owners don't even see the upgrade as being worth it. I tend to believe most of the rumors that the PS4 Pro will become the baseline PS4 and drop $299 the PS5 will be the "premium" console.

As far as Ram, Maybe 16 Gigs of DDR5? Remember this thing has to be able to be priced at Sony's ideal price point of $399. I can't imagine that they want another PS3...



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AlfredoTurkey said:
BraLoD said:
I don't understand why people are wanting to talk about the PS5 yet.
PS4 is doing great and we still have so many great games to hit, let us talk about the PS5 when we need it.
Of course Sony has been developing it for a while now but there is no hurry.
After TLOU2 hits we may focus on the PS5 xP

The PS4 has been on the market for fucking... almost five YEARS. I think it's well overdo to talk about it.

What’s up with you guys. It’s been not even 4.5 let alone 5 years.



Lespaul said:
It will have a ryzen CPU so all games will be 60 FPS .and an 11 TF GPU and 16 gigs of memory.the CPU in the ps4 is a bottleneck even the pros CPU sucks

You’ll be disappointed then. For most games developers will always favour fidelity before framerate. Nothing of this will change next gen.

It’s possible additional VR versions will lead to more games going for 60 but it will still be the vast minority.



Trumpstyle said:

A 4 core cpu would just not be good enough for next-gen system especially with 1 core being taken by the OS. If you wondering why exactly 7 cores instead of 8 cores it's cause it will be cheaper to produce with 1 core disabled.

Quad core CPU's have taken the role of the old dual-cores in terms of performance.
I.E. AMD's Ryzen's low-end are Quad-Cores.
Intels i3 is now Quad-Cores.

So it goes without saying... Regardless of the amount of cores that is chosen (8-Jaguar cores were roughly comparable to an Intel i3 Dual Core), having CPU performance around that level is probably something we might expect.

globalisateur said:

SMT (2 threads by core) is not ideal for a console, apparently it's kind of random. I think it would make much more sense (and be less expensive anyways) for 8 cores, 8 threads. Also BC with PS4 would be much easier like this.

The Xbox 360 had SMT, but it did bring with it some caveats that I won't get into here.

In short though, SMT would not prevent backwards compatibility, but when leveraged right can allow you to extract more performance out of each core.

globalisateur said:

AMD produce their CPU by chunk of 4. So it would be 6 cores (with 2 disabled) or 8.

Not even a factor when we start talking about monolithic semi-custom SoC's.

Intrinsic said:

STORAGE: I believe the PS5 (and next Xbox) will finally jump to solid state drives. And of the M.2 variety. While the consoles will support PCIEx4 based nvMe drives by default (~2000Mb/s + reads) the consoles will come with a 1TB sata 3 based m.2 drive instead (~500Mb/s reads). Right now you can get a 512GB M.2 sata ssd for under $150.

Thats not what it would cost for sony and those prices will come down in the next 2/3yrs. Drives will be user upgradeable of course.

They will go with whatever is cheapest. - Even the Xbox One X isn't using the biggest, fastest mechanical disks and that was a "premium" console.

SSD's/m.2 drives still command a premium and will do so even in a few years from now.
Plus the demand for NAND is increasing, so costs could actually increase, especially if NAND fabs retool to start taking advantage of higher DRAM prices.

withdreday said:

They almost have to with the PS4 Pro being so under powered compared to the Xbox One X. The One X is even out selling the Pro now, so most current owners don't even see the upgrade as being worth it. I tend to believe most of the rumors that the PS4 Pro will become the baseline PS4 and drop $299 the PS5 will be the "premium" console.

The Xbox One X outselling the Pro is an inconsequential issue as the Pro isn't the bulk of Playstation sales anyway.

withdreday said:

As far as Ram, Maybe 16 Gigs of DDR5? Remember this thing has to be able to be priced at Sony's ideal price point of $399. I can't imagine that they want another PS3...

DDR5 isn't going to happen. JEDEC has only just finished demonstrating the DRAM and hasn't even finished ratifying the standard... And is thus probably still a few years away from a market release.
It does promise to double the bandwidth and density of DDR4, which means it's not going to be enough for next gen anyway unless you implement a stupidly wide bus.

It will be GDDR6, it will be what will offer the greatest benefits, higher capacities and good enough bandwidth/latency.
GDDR6 is currently ramping up production right now, so costs will be leveled out by the time 2020 hits.
 



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Teeqoz said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

Had the industry NOT done what I said, it wouldn't even have MADE it to PS3 because that's how it operated from Atari 2600 to then.

But.... the industry hasn't done what you said. Nintendo never did, except for the Wii U and 3DS, which coincidentally were their worst performing consoles ever. The PS3 also was Sony's worst performing console ever, despite Sony eating a much larger loss on it than on the PS1 and 2.

As far as power jumps, yes, Nintendo did. They did it up until the Wii. So did everyone else. 



AlfredoTurkey said:
Teeqoz said:

But.... the industry hasn't done what you said. Nintendo never did, except for the Wii U and 3DS, which coincidentally were their worst performing consoles ever. The PS3 also was Sony's worst performing console ever, despite Sony eating a much larger loss on it than on the PS1 and 2.

As far as power jumps, yes, Nintendo did. They did it up until the Wii. So did everyone else. 

Yeah, because tech progression was faster back then lol.