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Maybe the remaining consoles were not 'sold'?

Like there was a promotion where you had a 1 in 5 chance of winning a PS4 when buying a bravia TV in the UK.
That would mean only 3m bravias in all countries where the promotion was running would need to be sold for them to give away 600k playstations.



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fps_d0minat0r said:
Maybe the remaining consoles were not 'sold'?

Like there was a promotion where you had a 1 in 5 chance of winning a PS4 when buying a bravia TV in the UK.
That would mean only 3m bravias in all countries where the promotion was running would need to be sold for them to give away 600k playstations.

I want in on that promotion.

Also, I don't know about the UK, but prices of TVs in Croatia are generally the same or lower than the price of PS4, so it would actually make more sense to give away TVs with PS4 purchase, not the other way around.

But, mostly, I think you were just joking.



Burek said:
fps_d0minat0r said:
Maybe the remaining consoles were not 'sold'?

Like there was a promotion where you had a 1 in 5 chance of winning a PS4 when buying a bravia TV in the UK.
That would mean only 3m bravias in all countries where the promotion was running would need to be sold for them to give away 600k playstations.

I want in on that promotion.

Also, I don't know about the UK, but prices of TVs in Croatia are generally the same or lower than the price of PS4, so it would actually make more sense to give away TVs with PS4 purchase, not the other way around.

But, mostly, I think you were just joking.


The promotion was limited to certain TVs and it didnt include the cheap ones lol.

But seriously, if other countries ran similar promotions as well, its possible that a large chunk of the difference could be because of PS4's won.



cycycychris said:
I understand ioi point of view on this. If he can't find where the system was mistracked, it's hard to make changes. I'm sure Sony probably wouldn't lie about the number on stage. For all we know, Sony could have assumed the number.

its one thing to try and defend vg, even though they know well where its undertracked by the virtue of knowing a few major markets officially.

But to try to raise doubt in sonys official number is a joke and then some.



So VG try to find the 1m ps4 they lost according to the official Sony numbers? wow thats a lot ps4 i waiting an answer when some day update the homepage where was all the ps4?



 

 

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And now I see why ioi posts so infrequently. Some of these users are just ridiculous. Then again, they are a small minority compared to the users with good conversation skills, so I guess at least that's something. As for, "if Sony is to be believed"...yeeaahhhh, lets...lets not even go there.



Thanks jlmurph!

Man some of you guys complain way too much. It's kind of pathetic.pathetic. Vgchartz will update it when they feel its right to. It is their site.



shikamaru317 said:
cycycychris said:
I understand ioi point of view on this. If he can't find where the system was mistracked, it's hard to make changes. I'm sure Sony probably wouldn't lie about the number on stage. For all we know, Sony could have assumed the number.

Yeah, I have to wonder about that as well. How could Sony possibly know how many they sold through to consumers? It's not like they can ring up every game retailer in every country where the PS4 is available and ask them how many PS4's they've sold. Now obviously Sony knows how much they've shipped to retailers, but how could they possibly know how many they've sold to consumers except from compiling the exact same numbers from NPD, GFK, and Media Create that ioi also uses, numbers that don't add up to 10m? It seems to me like they must be making guesses for the remaining regions that don't get tracked by a firm, the same exact thing that ioi is doing, except for some reason Sony is guessing about 600k higher for those regions than ioi is, presumably because they've shipped proportionally more PS4's than PS3's to those regions, which would explain why ioi is off since he's guessing sales for those untracked regions based on PS3 trends.

Stock burn through.

If you sale your shipment the same week it arrives its easy as hell to know how much you have sold, the vgc ioi apolagists trying to pretand sony is wrong are hilarious.  

Sony is not guessing vgc are, they know every freaking market and ther demend there, its really that simple.  If im getting requests for more stock on the daily its selling X.  If i get it every week its selling Y if every months its Z.  

Vg is using 360/PS3 data to guess PS4, no surprise its not working well.  Then factor in growth in emerging markets and its easy to see why they are confused and numbers not inline with legit sony ones.



Sure we now know that PS4 sold over ten million to customers, but moving forward can we expect to keep receiving these updates from the game companies? There is an advantage to tracking numbers the VGC way, as at least we will continue to have estimates of were everything stands in terms of sales at regular weekly intervals.



Lastgengamer said:

Sure we now know that PS4 sold over ten million to customers, but moving forward can we expect to keep receiving these updates from the game companies? There is an advantage to tracking numbers the VGC way, as at least we will continue to have estimates of were everything stands in terms of sales at regular weekly intervals.


What good is an estimate if you know its wrong casue you have the correct numbers ???