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The point of religion wasn't for the theism and mythologies. It was a way to help keep the community together. However, nowadays, people have been using religion for other purposes, often unethical and the opposite of community building. It is the abuse of religious power that has prompted the aforementioned question from the OP. I don't have a problem with religion as long it is not forced upon the people. The problem with religion in the US is that it is.



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I don't think, it wouldn't have any sense.



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Aura7541 said:
The point of religion wasn't for the theism and mythologies. It was a way to help keep the community together. However, nowadays, people have been using religion for other purposes, often unethical and the opposite of community building. It is the abuse of religious power that has prompted the aforementioned question from the OP. I don't have a problem with religion as long it is not forced upon the people. The problem with religion in the US is that it is.

I'm not sure how you came to those conclusions.

In my life, my church community gives me hope and brings me closer to all people. If some people are using religion for wrong purposes, it does not make religion bad. It makes their use bad.

Again, is a knife in itself a bad thing if one uses it for murder?



supernihilist said:
VXIII said:
supernihilist said:
Wow. I didnt know there was still so many religious people in the year 2014. Particularly on a videogame forum!
Im certainly a little embarrased, but oh well...its your life guys, if you want to seek 'hope' talking with a imaginary pal in your head thats ok, im not going to oppose you.
Take care.


Yeah, religion is so uncool in 2014, dude. I mean come on bro.

embarrased... right 

Are you trying to imply something with that? Dude bro? whatch your words im not a kiddo

Be a man and go ahead. Im curious of which arguments you might have...


Well I for one will say that those who have current mainstream scientific reasoning as a dogma will be in for a rude awakening over the next couple of decades or so imo

 

One of the massive mistakes people make is that they assume that only what we can perceive or measure with our limited instrumentation exists 

So therefore anything beyond that does not which imo is a very short sighted 

When you think about it... Our eyes see an extremely narrow band of the em spectrum... Our ears sense sounds between 20 to 20khz which is why we can't hear dog whistles while dogs can

Scientists themselves have concluded that they cannot visibly detect most of the mass in the universe with current instrumentation but can tell it's there merely by its effect on visible mass 

Then the question of if the big bang really happened... Where did the energy come from?...It had to originate from somewhere and I've come to the conclusion that the source must be outside our range of perception just like dark matter

 

I say all of that to make the point that you shouldn't polarise yourself against things that are called improbable by modern science because as time moves on and we increase what we know many things we thought of as ludicrous will become the status quo... Just like the earth being round



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padib said:
supernihilist said:
Wow. I didnt know there was still so many religious people in the year 2014. Particularly on a videogame forum!
Im certainly a little embarrased, but oh well...its your life guys, if you want to seek 'hope' talking with a imaginary pal in your head thats ok, im not going to oppose you.
Take care.

You are so cool supernihilist, I'm sorry that we religious people make you embarassed.

You really deserve not to be and we are ashsamed of ourselves.

Will you ever forgive us?

Shalom


Honestly. If i cared, i wouldnt. I wouldnt forgive you, at all. If it was in my hands, i would totally eliminate them. They are obsolete institutions. Pointless and obsolte at its highest degree.

Theres nothing good coming out of these institutions today. Actually what we usually hear is pretty horrid. They only propagate misinformation and apart people from reality and science.

Just embrace scientific method already. Its the year 2014 for Christ sake ;). You will do much better for mankind.



Unfortunately Not - religion should be banned from every country!



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padib said:
Aura7541 said:
The point of religion wasn't for the theism and mythologies. It was a way to help keep the community together. However, nowadays, people have been using religion for other purposes, often unethical and the opposite of community building. It is the abuse of religious power that has prompted the aforementioned question from the OP. I don't have a problem with religion as long it is not forced upon the people. The problem with religion in the US is that it is.

I'm not sure how you came to those conclusions.

In my life, my church community gives me hope and brings me closer to all people. If some people are using religion for wrong purposes, it does not make religion bad. It makes their use bad.

Again, is a knife in itself a bad thing if one uses it for murder?

That's the thing. Your, but yours isn't all the religions and the religious institutions. Also, what kind of hope does your church brings? The hope for Heaven? The hope for a good, fulfilling life? If it's the former, then that's false hope because the concept of Heaven arised from the fear of death. The latter, I have no problems with whatsoever since it's a universal desire people have.



prayformojo said:
DarkWraith said:


yeah, so far as I can tell there is only one guy working on this seriously who I've never heard of. it's impossible to establish this...presupposing it's true and then gathering evidence to support that position is BAD science, BAD reasoning, and BAD for humanity. it should remain a philosophical consideration, and be abandoned empirically.

I bet this never gains traction with the physics community, it's largely been dormant since 2012. probably for aforementioned reasons. you know, it's a bit like "Creation Science", lots of hand waving.


The one difference in creation science is this isn't based on a Diety. It's based on science itself. 



well, it's based upon the philosophical idea which predates it, but a step in the direction of tests is fine. it's an idea which is interesting, but no tests will ever be able to confirm it is the case. best scenario, it's aligned with observable data. so what though? you need to go beyond nomological possibility into actuality, which can never be achieved here. which is why I'm very bored with the idea.

Is you dumb son?