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sweetoothj said:

Watchdogs isn't really a big 3rd party title. Wait for COD advance warfare then you can come and talk to me. And like I said, it took one of Nintendo's most prized games to get that far and they are already drifting behind. Soon you can't rely on big franchises while Sony and Microsoft can rely on third party and first party exlcusives. 


U have got to be kidding, Watch Dogs isnt a big 3rd party game? Its Ubisoft's biggest opener ever with 4 million in the first week. And like I said a $100 price cut couldnt bring it ahead. Also this thread is just about this year so anything releasing beyond that is irrelevent to the discussion.



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Seece said:
About 1.5 - 2.5m

Do you mean lifetime sales?
Being 3/4ths through the financial year at the beginning of January, Nintendo will have forecast the Wii U to be around 9 million end of 2014. This would mean the X1 would have to reach 10.5-11.5 million by the end of the year to be in that kind of lead. That's over a million in a month -- but the XBO has only sold 1.5 million for the first half of this year and its sales are barely holding together in mainland Europe.

XBO gets even with the WiiU in the best case scenario.



I predict NX launches in 2017 - not 2016

-1 million.

SO will flop. Halo remake will do OK. Every other major XBO release this year is available on 360.

WiiU will start beasting partly owed to Hyrule Warrior's success in Japan, and surprisingly in NA too. Bayo 2 outperforming. Amiibo/Skylanders crossover appeal. X might even probably release in Japan by end of 2014. SSB should end up being a good HW driver if they deliver it on time.



I predict NX launches in 2017 - not 2016

It won't. I also think that the Xbox One is overtracked on here and that the Wii U is undertracked too...although there's only 100-200K difference in the VGC numbers imo.

Microsoft's silence on sales as opposed to shipments has been deafening.



Uff. It will be close. Lets see how Smash performs on WiiU. Honestly its up to Smash.



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I do not see any games that allow the X1 to lead this year. 4 old Halo games are just not enough. The Wii-U will ride on the Mario Kart Wave for a while and then Smash Bros will kick in. The biggest X1 sellers will be Call of Duty, GTA 5 and Battlefield but these are multi-platform releases.



I don't see the xbox one passing the wii u this year or even next year. Nintendo is releasing some damn good games and I'm sure games like zelda and smash bros will prove to be a system seller. If the x1 does ever pass the wii u in sales I think it's going to take atleast 2 years.



To be honest I don't care about sales, but I see Xbox and Wii U being very close and so far Wii U is infront and still widening the gap. Microsoft better get off their arses and do summit.



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CommonNinja said:
errorpwns said:

Your logic is so awful "W-well the xbox one would be tied if Japan didn't exist" you act as if the Xbox One has a chance in Japan at competing against thr Wii-U. The Wii-U also has tons of exclusives coming out this year and even more next year.


My logic is that despite the fact that the Wii U has had a years head start, the X1 has already caught up to it sales wise everywhere in the world except japan.

 

Im not saying they can compete in Japan, nowhere in my post did I say that.  My point was that outside of japan the Wii U is being outsold by the X1 every month.  Japan is the only reason why the Wii U is still ahead of the X1 sales wise, but it is not a big enough market to keep it ahead of the X1 for good.

My point was, to everyone that is saying the X1 will never catch the Wii U in sales is that it already has in most teritories outside of Japan despite having a whole years disadvantage, and that is why I think it will pass the Wii U in total sales this year.

 

As far as the whole exclusives thing, I know that the Wii U obviously has more exclusive games this year than just MK8 & SSB, but the fact is that most of thoes other exclusives are not going to sell Wii Us.  Games like Bayonetta 2 & Hyrule Wariours are not what you would call "Main Stream Games" they only appeal to hardcore players, and so they will not sell as many consoles as something like SSB or MK8 which are much more main stream games.

I think that if the Wii U had next year's lineup this year, then X1 would not pass them, but as it is, they just don't have enough meaningfull exclusives to carry sales momentum throughtout the entire year.  

If you look at X1's line up, it does have enough meaningfull exclusives to help pickup sales in the fall.  For example, Fora Horizon is a big raceing game that will interest a lot of the european crowd, and should do well enough in the US.  Then they also have Sunset Overdrive which should really boost the American market as we really tend to like shooters.  And then to top it off you have the Halo MCC which is something every OG Xbox owner will not be able to resist, and should help spike Holiday sales to counter SSB.   Also, the fact that the new SSB is comming to 3DS (a month before Wii U version) will really limit it's potential as a huge unit mover for the Wii U.

On top of that you have to consider that the X1 also has great 3rd party games to fall back on like Cod and Evolve which both have DLC first on Xbox, and FIFFA which has exclusive Xbox content.  Not to mention DAI and Assasin's Creed Unity wich have marketing deals with Xbox that will further help to push more units.

 

Thats my logic in thinking the X1 will outsell Wii U by the end of they year.  If you think it is wrong then so be it, but please don't complain about how "awefull" it is without proof or sound logic to back up why I am wrong.


Proof mario kart 8 and super smash will and can outsell any multiplat or exclusive Xbox has to offer that includes Forza and halo sunset overdrive or any exclusive or multiplat....and can't match the super smash  and Mario kart duo ..the proof is there mario kart wii(35,000,000 (one game)  sold almost  more than all  6 xbox 360 halos combined (39million )and I'm not even talking about super smash wii ,12,000,000 smh

That is fairly good logic there, but I can't agree.

Wii U may sell well during the holidays with MK8 or SSB bundles, but during most of the year it will lose on a weekly basis to the X1.  Just look at this past weeks numbers as proof.  The X1 outsold the Wii U by 20k WW, and thoes numbers will only get worse one we get further away from the MK8 launch, and once X1 is released in other teritories.

That said, I am planning on getting a Wii U this Holday if I can find if for a good price.  Mainly buying it for when Zelda released next year, but MK8, and SSB should help keep me busy in the mean time.



zorg1000 said:
sweetoothj said:

Watchdogs isn't really a big 3rd party title. Wait for COD advance warfare then you can come and talk to me. And like I said, it took one of Nintendo's most prized games to get that far and they are already drifting behind. Soon you can't rely on big franchises while Sony and Microsoft can rely on third party and first party exlcusives. 


U have got to be kidding, Watch Dogs isnt a big 3rd party game? Its Ubisoft's biggest opener ever with 4 million in the first week. And like I said a $100 price cut couldnt bring it ahead. Also this thread is just about this year so anything releasing beyond that is irrelevent to the discussion.

Watchdogs was marketed as a PS4 game.

X1 hasn't really had a major 3rd party multiplat associated/marketed with it yet other than Cod Ghost last year.

Later this year though it will have Evolve, Dragon Age Inquizition, AC Unity, Fiffa, and Cod.  All thoes games will be marketed for X1 as Microsoft has made marketing partenerships with the Publishers for them, so they should help boost X1 sales.