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kowenicki said:
Zekkyou said:

I was talking about the market as a whole. Take out all the handhelds from your last graph and things don't look quite as grim. Not great still, but reasonable given the situation. We also need to consider that the PC market has grown pretty significantly in recent years.

Right now I'm more worried about MS than i am about Sony as far as home consoles go (a situation that can still be reversed, but for now the X1 is selling pretty awfully). As for Nintendo, i'm beyond worrying and have entered the stage of mild amusement :p

I was looking at it from an industry wide perspective. 

But if you want a company view.  Playstation will never be anywhere near as big as it was (much like its parent company), Ninty will never be as big as it was.  Xbox?  not sure.  It hasnt really shrunk much yet.

Depends how you define the industry i suppose. As far as dedicated platforms go, sure, things are a lot worse than they used to be. Gaming in general though (home consoles, handhelds, mobile and PC) is looking pretty good.

I don't think anything is going to be as big PlayStation used to be, as least as far as single home platforms go. The PS4 at least has the potential to take 2nd place behind the PS2, which i imagine Sony are pleased with (especially since the PS4 isn't the money sink the PS3 turned out to be). Should also be interesting to see what happens with PSNow. 

Fully agree on Nintendo. They hit the golden road with the DS/Wii combo, which is incredibly unlikely to happen again.

Xbox will be fun to watch. The X1's current situation isn't pretty at all, but there is plenty of time for MS to turn things around.



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kowenicki said:
Intrinsic said:
Oh... a doom thread.

I've got the hammer and nails..... who's bringing the coffin?


yawn

it isnt a doom thread

its cold hard facts.

Hahaha..... Trust me, do the numbers without the handhelds. You will see for yourself that every gen since the NES, home console install base has increased by around 20/30% with each new generation. every single one. 

As for handhelds, I have personally never bought a handheld in my life. I hate them. And it doesn't surprise me  that they are losing their appeal. Smartphones are a natural replacement to them, it skinda how you don't see anyone buying ipods anymore either. I personally felt, that having looked at the smartphone industry the single most stupid thing sony has done in a while is make the PSV. 



This is really good stuff. Thanks for the chart.

The trend recently is rather depressing. WiiU and Vita both dropped the shipment numbers massively.

MS without a handheld to skew the data is really nice. They are more or less flat and I wonder if they will remain so (probably)



Zekkyou said:
Seeing as these charts include handhelds, is anyone even remotely surprised by these numbers? Were it not for the sudden huge rise and then "fall" of handheld gaming the charts would look a lot more consistent.

Exactly.  Some may try to spin this into some kind of DOMZ!, but it isn't.  The only one who should be concerned, if we are looking at combined sales, is MS.  Overall shipments after support for the 360 is dropped are going to look horrid.  For Nintendo, this just shows the 3DS is doing okay, but peaked early, while the Wii U isn't doing so great.  The PS3 has dropped quite a bit, but that's normal for how long gen 7 lasted.  And the Vita isn't doing so great outside of Japan.  Both of which don't change that the PS4 is doing great and will continue to.

Basically, what we already knew, just in chart form.



The market can't survived 2 duds like it did in the ps2 era, I hope Microsoft and Nintendo can get their act together.



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Ouch, industry is fighting to stay alive. Looking forward to the final XB data.



We're supposed to see how the industry is collapsing and therefore the disastrous X1 sales are understandable?



kowenicki said:

I was looking at it from an industry wide perspective. 

But if you want a company view.  Playstation will never be anywhere near as big as it was (much like its parent company), Ninty will never be as big as it was.  Xbox?  not sure.  It hasnt really shrunk much yet.

PS4 launch sales surpassed even the PS2s, indicating PS is even bigger now then it was then.  but lets forget reality and go with your opinion lolz. 



Sony was propped up in 07-08 thanks to the PSP, with Vita underperforming and PS3 dying they have to mainly rely on PS4. Luckily PS4 is doing very well and should do even better next year. Not sure what Nintendo can do other than release a new handheld and console. Xbox numbers are and always have been terrible.



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

Man, Sony's shipments were incredible during their "doom days". I had no idea.

Definitely paints a dire picture for the future though. :-/