That goes both ways. I remember at the hearings Ted Cruz saying a foregrip was "just a piece of plastic" and all these attachments on guns are purely cosmetic. Now I'm not mister gun knowledge but as a gamer I understand that a foregrip gives you extra stability most commonly associated with reducing recoil and increasing accuracy across successive fast rounds.

So both liberals and conservatives are ignorant about things. Either that or being purposefully misrepresentative. I wouldn't really take stock in what any of them say. I mean, you do realize most of those those liberal politicians you hate voted AGAINST all recently purposed gun control right?

lol, all this speculation is a waste of everyone's time

Fact 1: Guns will never be banned in the United States. No politician who wants to win elections will take that step. At best, we'll have more ridiculous laws about magazine sizes, semi-autos and other meaningless junk

Fact 2: All this faux gun ban scares are probably stemming from the very same people selling the guns so you can keep stashing them up while they reign in the profits

Fact 3: Obama doesn't care how many guns you have. His speeches on the topic are just that...something to say on the issue to get abolitionists of his case. He has the most security in the country and probably doesn't care if you get shot or go on a shooting spree

it doesnt really give you stability rather just comfort. it is essentially a piece of plastic, one that aids in comfortablility and not much else.

Ive shot numerous weapons and have qualified up to 500 yds, every time the Marine Corps has issued me an M-16, it has been without a foregrip.

I agree, fireguns are just a very effective way to kill. It would be much easier for people around to act against a psycho who's using a knife or stones to attack than it is to defend against someone with a firearm. The attacker would also be much more hesitant to do it without such power at hand.

You would make a good politician :)

i take that as a compliment.

but what i said still holds true. as someone who fancys himself as a firearms enthusist, I cant really notice any determinable difference when firing with or without a foregrip, other than the angle of my hand being slightly more comfortable with the grip.

i do have something called the grip-pod which is both a foregrip and a bi-pod, that helps me when i shoot in the prone posistion

Of course I know I'm making a generalization. One can't possibly talk about a large group of people without doing so. It goes without saying that any observation about such a large group doesn't apply to every single member of the group, so it's a waste of time to preface every statement with, "Now I'm not saying this applies to every individual..."

Most people are pretty shockingly uninformed (or worse, misinformed) about even basic things, and any sane person is going to be ignorant if we measure ignorance as a person's knowledge vs. the vastness of the federal government's activity. It would be impossible to know more than a small fraction about what the government does without making a career of it. And since any group of people is functionally stupider than the average of its components, I don't think it's particularly arrogant or unkind to say that the body politic isn't too smart.

Let me start by saying I am more or less on your side of the issue. I don't own the gun. But I don't care if my neighbor owns one for hunting, or as a hobby, or to feel safer. With that said let me give you some advice.

There is way too much passion. It is clear you are very anti gun control. That means you have a very obvious agenda, and I should be very cautious when reading your post.

Now honestly most of what you are saying might be completely true. But the way you are talking won't convince anyone on the opposite side or in the middle of the issue. You are just pandering to your side and politicizing the issue yourself.

Let me give you an example on how to improve.

On the off chance that you need a reminder that money cannot buy you brains, I give you the ultra-rich, ultra-liberal, ultra-anti-gun, ultra-moron, Michael Moore who, in a statement he posted on Facebook, blames, among other things, congress for not passing stricter gun laws that “90% of Americans want”.  Hey genius, this incident happened in CA, where all of those stricter gun laws you claim that 90% of us want already exist.  This once again proves what we (those of us who can actually use our brains) have been saying for decades:  More gun laws cannot possibly prevent crimes like this.

Note the things I highlighted. Avoid statements like those. They are exactly the type of venom that for some reason both sides use, even though they just make the other side look at you with animosity, and make people who haven't formed opinions tend the ignore you.

Had you written something like this, it would have been far more effective at convincing people who don't share your opinion.

Michael Moore who, in a statement he posted on Facebook, blames, among other things, congress for not passing stricter gun laws that “90% of Americans want”.  But the sad truth is that this incidident is an example of even strict gun control laws not working. Despite all the precautions that the state of California takes towards gun ownership. This man still managed to get a gun. Where there is a will, there is a way. If someone wants to get a gun, he will find a way to get one. More gun laws cannot possibly prevent crimes like this.

I agree, we need to stop calling mentally disabled people "high functioning" and admit these people have problems, real problems.  Better mental health laws are needed to deal with indviduals who clear cannot function well with others in society.

Those stats don't just include fist fights. They also include sexual assaults, kidnapping etc. The only stat I could find where the US is ahead (or behind in the case of being more peaceful) is outright armed robbery and even in that case Australia is only about 30 points lower (per 100,000) than the US and that is with Australia having what, a tenth of the US population?

I have a lot of love for our compatriots in the Land Down Under (served with some Aussies, and one Kiwi in Baghdad) but the facts just don't support your assertion that we here in the US are less peaceful. Of course, we don't eat Vegemite so there is that.