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Pavolink said:
think-man said:
Anfebious said:
think-man said:
I always thought that Sony lost last gen not that Nintendo won it, Sony doesn't have to do jack except last gen when we saw them panic because they made so many mistakes.


So who won last gen? Microsoft?

I mean that Sony lost the gen through bad choices not that Nintendo won it through good ones. I think Sony would have had it in bag if they didn't F it up.


Do you really believe people around the world would have passed from the Wii to buy a PS3? Do they have a reason to pass from the cool console to buy another PS console?

And to answer the OP, yes Sony wins by default because the other two are incompetent, not because Sony did something noteworthy.

LMAO so much garbage, if it was that easy why didnt anyone else do it? Such a moronic post, sony did notihng right? Never saw market trencd, made systems people wanted , games people wanted?  Making a product people want is the whole point, saying sony only ddi well because the competitiion was incompetent is totally dismissive and butthurt. it was ont that made the competition look lost, from doing everything right. and having a global varied approach, that does not rely on gimmicks, or 1-2 franchises.

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Anfebious said:

So... Sony lost the generation through bad choices that's okay. But Nintendo didn't win it through good ones? How exactly? Are you implying that Sony's fuck up was the whole reason of the Wii success? I certainly don't agree with that.


I feel like if Sony had done things properly they would have stolen from the 360's audience not the Wii's. The Wii really wasn't competing with them directly. I don't know a single person that thought "which should I buy Wii or PS3" or "Wii or 360" It was alway between 360 and PS3 because they're so similar. So I think the Wii would have exploded regardless. The question is though how much better would the PS3 be performing had they done things right. 

 

Edit: Damn my reply was late. Think man already said the same thing. :p



padib said:
Phantom-Lord said:
padib said:
Sony always wins by default, because that is the popular opinion.

However, as Nintendo has often shown, unless they make big mistakes like overpricing their console (WiiU), they always are the greatest seller of video games. This is especially evident in their portable line, where the price of the console was almost never an obstacle to the enjoyment of their games.

Nintendo is still, by far, the greatest publisher of dedicated console gaming. Take a look at the overall game sales charts, and there you will find your answer.


No, Since sony game along no one has touched them in software and hardware sales....look it up.

I did

PosGamePlatformYearGenrePublisherNorth AmericaEuropeJapanRest of WorldGlobal
1 Wii Sports Wii 2006 Sports Nintendo 41.09 28.72 3.77 8.40 81.97
2 Super Mario Bros. NES 1985 Platform Nintendo 29.08 3.58 6.81 0.77 40.24
3 Mario Kart Wii Wii 2008 Racing Nintendo 15.13 12.41 3.73 3.20 34.48
4 Wii Sports Resort Wii 2009 Sports Nintendo 15.43 10.75 3.26 2.90 32.34
5 Pokémon Red / Green / Blue Version GB 1996 Role-Playing Nintendo 11.27 8.89 10.22 1.00 31.37
6 Tetris GB 1989 Puzzle Nintendo 23.20 2.26 4.22 0.58 30.26
7 New Super Mario Bros. DS 2006 Platform Nintendo 11.13 8.96 6.49 2.86 29.44
8 Wii Play Wii 2006 Misc Nintendo 13.90 9.14 2.93 2.84 28.80
9 Duck Hunt NES 1984 Shooter Nintendo 26.93 0.63 0.28 0.47 28.31
10 New Super Mario Bros. Wii Wii 2009 Platform Nintendo 13.92 6.62 4.69 2.16 27.39
11 Nintendogs DS 2005 Simulation Nintendo 9.04 10.88 1.93 2.74 24.59
12 Pokémon Gold / Silver Version GB 1999 Role-Playing Nintendo 9.00 6.18 7.20 0.71 23.10
13 Mario Kart DS DS 2005 Racing Nintendo 9.57 7.31 4.12 1.88 22.88
14 Wii Fit Wii 2007 Sports Nintendo 8.92 8.03 3.60 2.14 22.69
15 Wii Fit Plus Wii 2009 Sports Nintendo 8.92 8.27 2.53 1.75 21.48

Sunce sony has come to market....not hard to understand. Sony started in 1995, you fgoing back to duck hunt in the mid 80's try and keep up. Since sony started no one has sold moreconsole by a WIDE margin and Software. Listing nintendo software doesnt change that,



Pavolink said:
think-man said:
Anfebious said:
think-man said:
I always thought that Sony lost last gen not that Nintendo won it, Sony doesn't have to do jack except last gen when we saw them panic because they made so many mistakes.


So who won last gen? Microsoft?

I mean that Sony lost the gen through bad choices not that Nintendo won it through good ones. I think Sony would have had it in bag if they didn't F it up.


Do you really believe people around the world would have passed from the Wii to buy a PS3? Do they have a reason to pass from the cool console to buy another PS console?

And to answer the OP, yes Sony wins by default because the other two are incompetent, not because Sony did something noteworthy.

Read my reply to Anfebious I probably wasn't clear enough in my first post. My bad



Phantom-Lord said:
Pavolink said:
think-man said:
Anfebious said:
think-man said:
I always thought that Sony lost last gen not that Nintendo won it, Sony doesn't have to do jack except last gen when we saw them panic because they made so many mistakes.


So who won last gen? Microsoft?

I mean that Sony lost the gen through bad choices not that Nintendo won it through good ones. I think Sony would have had it in bag if they didn't F it up.


Do you really believe people around the world would have passed from the Wii to buy a PS3? Do they have a reason to pass from the cool console to buy another PS console?

And to answer the OP, yes Sony wins by default because the other two are incompetent, not because Sony did something noteworthy.

LMAO so much garbage, if it was that easy why didnt anyone else do it? Such a moronic post, sony did notihng right? Never saw market trencd, made systems people wanted , games people wanted?  Making a product people want is the whole point, saying sony only ddi well because the competitiion was incompetent is totally dismissive and butthurt. it was ont that made the competition look lost, from doing everything right. and having a global varied approach, that does not rely on gimmicks, or 1-2 franchises.

Where did I say they do everything wrong?

Point to me or just don't quote and go ahead with your ignorance.



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padib said:
Phantom-Lord said:
padib said:
Phantom-Lord said:

No, Since sony game along no one has touched them in software and hardware sales....look it up.

I did

PosGamePlatformYearGenrePublisherNorth AmericaEuropeJapanRest of WorldGlobal
1 Wii Sports Wii 2006 Sports Nintendo 41.09 28.72 3.77 8.40 81.97
2 Super Mario Bros. NES 1985 Platform Nintendo 29.08 3.58 6.81 0.77 40.24
3 Mario Kart Wii Wii 2008 Racing Nintendo 15.13 12.41 3.73 3.20 34.48
4 Wii Sports Resort Wii 2009 Sports Nintendo 15.43 10.75 3.26 2.90 32.34
5 Pokémon Red / Green / Blue Version GB 1996 Role-Playing Nintendo 11.27 8.89 10.22 1.00 31.37
6 Tetris GB 1989 Puzzle Nintendo 23.20 2.26 4.22 0.58 30.26
7 New Super Mario Bros. DS 2006 Platform Nintendo 11.13 8.96 6.49 2.86 29.44
8 Wii Play Wii 2006 Misc Nintendo 13.90 9.14 2.93 2.84 28.80
9 Duck Hunt NES 1984 Shooter Nintendo 26.93 0.63 0.28 0.47 28.31
10 New Super Mario Bros. Wii Wii 2009 Platform Nintendo 13.92 6.62 4.69 2.16 27.39
11 Nintendogs DS 2005 Simulation Nintendo 9.04 10.88 1.93 2.74 24.59
12 Pokémon Gold / Silver Version GB 1999 Role-Playing Nintendo 9.00 6.18 7.20 0.71 23.10
13 Mario Kart DS DS 2005 Racing Nintendo 9.57 7.31 4.12 1.88 22.88
14 Wii Fit Wii 2007 Sports Nintendo 8.92 8.03 3.60 2.14 22.69
15 Wii Fit Plus Wii 2009 Sports Nintendo 8.92 8.27 2.53 1.75 21.48

Sunce sony has come to market....not hard to understand. Sony started in 1995, you fgoing back to duck hunt in the mid 80's try and keep up.

This includes the Wii and the DS, which came out after 1995. If you go lower in the list you will find Mario 64, which ranks higher than any sony game, even Gran Turismo.

Again your post proves nothng, post total WW ssoftware sales since 1995 for sony and nintendo....your post is meaningless. TotAL, meaning all software sales, including third party software..... Who has sold more hardware and software.

 

what planet do you live on whereonly exclusive software = sales? Sony moves way more software an hardware globally then nintendo by a large margin.,



Talal said:
Anfebious said:

So... Sony lost the generation through bad choices that's okay. But Nintendo didn't win it through good ones? How exactly? Are you implying that Sony's fuck up was the whole reason of the Wii success? I certainly don't agree with that.


I feel like if Sony had done things properly they would have stolen from the 360's audience not the Wii's. The Wii really wasn't competing with them directly. I don't know a single person that thought "which should I buy Wii or PS3" or "Wii or 360" It was alway between 360 and PS3 because they're so similar. So I think the Wii would have exploded regardless. The question is though how much better would the PS3 be performing had they done things right. 

 

Edit: Damn my reply was late. Think man already said the same thing. :p

This is what I was trying to get at :P but I didn't word it right initially.



think-man said:
Pavolink said:
think-man said:
Anfebious said:
think-man said:
I always thought that Sony lost last gen not that Nintendo won it, Sony doesn't have to do jack except last gen when we saw them panic because they made so many mistakes.


So who won last gen? Microsoft?

I mean that Sony lost the gen through bad choices not that Nintendo won it through good ones. I think Sony would have had it in bag if they didn't F it up.


Do you really believe people around the world would have passed from the Wii to buy a PS3? Do they have a reason to pass from the cool console to buy another PS console?

And to answer the OP, yes Sony wins by default because the other two are incompetent, not because Sony did something noteworthy.

Read my reply to Anfebious I probably wasn't clear enough in my first post. My bad


Yes, I see. That made it clear.



Proud to be the first cool Nintendo fan ever

Number ONE Zelda fan in the Universe

DKCTF didn't move consoles

Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor

Predictions for Nintendo NX and Mobile


Phantom, Sony doesn't sell Final Fantasy, GTA, Call of Duty or Metal Gear games, Squeenix, Rockstar, Activision and Konami do.



padib said:
Phantom-Lord said:

Again your post provea crap, post total WW ssoftware sales since 1995 for sony and nintendo....your post is meaningless. TotAL, meaning all software sales, including third party software..... Who has sold more hardware and software.

You don't know the numbers. Nintendo has been consistently at the top of the publishers list, even during the days of the PS and PS2... Above EA and Take Two, above Ubisoft.

Of course I don't have total WW software, nobody does...

However when the publisher tables were posted on vgcharts, Nintendo was always on top. You just can't know that since you're probably very young.

LOL it is obvious sony has more then double total hardware and software sales since 1995, the N64 and gamecube got rooled by sony as is the wii-u please.