Forums - Sales Discussion - Xbox one will catch up soon with PS4 and then outsell it in the USA

Nicklesbe said:
TheDrill said:
DonFerrari said:
TheDrill said:
Aura7541 said:
TheDrill said:
Arkaign said:
We're due for vgc to fix their method of approximating their xb1 numbers going forward. Overdue in fact considering the massive failure in accuracy. What will people do with no more broken numbers to pin their hopes on? :)


people are blowing out of proportion the inaccuracy of VGchartz.

Their numbers are respectable.

Constantly overtracking the X1 and undertracking the PS4 are hardly respectable. Overtracking the X1 in April by almost 100% is egregious.

You really need to get your head out of the sand and start facing the facts. Your console of preference is struggling and even in its strongest market, it is getting significantly outsold by its competitor.


11 % is not significant. 

You are the only one believing in this 11% and that is your assumed difference not accuracy. We have gave you various stances of discrepancies. But you prove vgc is accurate because their number "seems rigth" but don't have any proof.

Don't take it personally but you seem like your nick, you keep spinning the same point over and over even though proved wrong. In yours master degree when your mentor corrected you what have you done? Kept refusing to accept?



I can refuse to accept your numbers simply from your lack of proper english, it's enough proof for me.

Also I wasn't present any proof, just a claim that NPD numbers are better


With that logic your own terrible english is enough to write off your claims as nonsense. Also you were "presented" pleanty of proof. Or is the the fact the entire game industry trusts those numbers, Xbox came out and said the numbers were accurate, and it was proved that VGC goes back to change their numbers to reflect NPD not enough proof for you?


*plenty

Microsoft never made any announcement confirming the numbers, people come to the wrong conclusions because the xbox site quoted the arcticle.



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TheDrill said:
Nicklesbe said:
TheDrill said:
DonFerrari said:
TheDrill said:
Aura7541 said:
TheDrill said:
Arkaign said:
We're due for vgc to fix their method of approximating their xb1 numbers going forward. Overdue in fact considering the massive failure in accuracy. What will people do with no more broken numbers to pin their hopes on? :)


people are blowing out of proportion the inaccuracy of VGchartz.

Their numbers are respectable.

Constantly overtracking the X1 and undertracking the PS4 are hardly respectable. Overtracking the X1 in April by almost 100% is egregious.

You really need to get your head out of the sand and start facing the facts. Your console of preference is struggling and even in its strongest market, it is getting significantly outsold by its competitor.


11 % is not significant. 

You are the only one believing in this 11% and that is your assumed difference not accuracy. We have gave you various stances of discrepancies. But you prove vgc is accurate because their number "seems rigth" but don't have any proof.

Don't take it personally but you seem like your nick, you keep spinning the same point over and over even though proved wrong. In yours master degree when your mentor corrected you what have you done? Kept refusing to accept?



I can refuse to accept your numbers simply from your lack of proper english, it's enough proof for me.

Also I wasn't present any proof, just a claim that NPD numbers are better


With that logic your own terrible english is enough to write off your claims as nonsense. Also you were "presented" pleanty of proof. Or is the the fact the entire game industry trusts those numbers, Xbox came out and said the numbers were accurate, and it was proved that VGC goes back to change their numbers to reflect NPD not enough proof for you?


*plenty

Microsoft never made any announcement confirming the numbers, people come to the wrong conclusions because the xbox site quoted the arcticle.


*came



TheDrill said:
Nicklesbe said:
TheDrill said:
DonFerrari said:
TheDrill said:
Aura7541 said:
TheDrill said:
Arkaign said:
We're due for vgc to fix their method of approximating their xb1 numbers going forward. Overdue in fact considering the massive failure in accuracy. What will people do with no more broken numbers to pin their hopes on? :)


people are blowing out of proportion the inaccuracy of VGchartz.

Their numbers are respectable.

Constantly overtracking the X1 and undertracking the PS4 are hardly respectable. Overtracking the X1 in April by almost 100% is egregious.

You really need to get your head out of the sand and start facing the facts. Your console of preference is struggling and even in its strongest market, it is getting significantly outsold by its competitor.


11 % is not significant. 

You are the only one believing in this 11% and that is your assumed difference not accuracy. We have gave you various stances of discrepancies. But you prove vgc is accurate because their number "seems rigth" but don't have any proof.

Don't take it personally but you seem like your nick, you keep spinning the same point over and over even though proved wrong. In yours master degree when your mentor corrected you what have you done? Kept refusing to accept?



I can refuse to accept your numbers simply from your lack of proper english, it's enough proof for me.

Also I wasn't present any proof, just a claim that NPD numbers are better


With that logic your own terrible english is enough to write off your claims as nonsense. Also you were "presented" pleanty of proof. Or is the the fact the entire game industry trusts those numbers, Xbox came out and said the numbers were accurate, and it was proved that VGC goes back to change their numbers to reflect NPD not enough proof for you?


*plenty

Microsoft never made any announcement confirming the numbers, people come to the wrong conclusions because the xbox site quoted the arcticle.

http://news.xbox.com/2014/04/xbox-one-march-npd other than that announcment where they confirmed it with internal numbers. But then I guess the corporate vice president of marketing isn't a good enough source.



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ps2 sold more then any xbox one console



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

small44 said:
ps2 sold more then any xbox one console


not relevant to the discussion



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TheDrill said:
small44 said:
ps2 sold more then any xbox one console


not relevant to the discussion


Like it matters since you ignore and dismiss all relevant data that proves you wrong. Like the Corporate Vice president of marketing at Xbox confirming that NPD is accurate. 



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TheDrill said:
small44 said:
ps2 sold more then any xbox one console


not relevant to the discussion

The first thing you said is Xbox 360 has dominated USA i think it refer that you believe Xbox brand is stronger then Playstation even if you don't think so many people think that xbox one would win over Ps4 for start before the releasing of both consoles.

So i don't know why this thing is not relevant  on the topic 

 

And Playstation has as much powerfull ip as Xbox



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

Wow I didn't realize the US gap was that small. lol @ outselling it WW though. Not happening any time soon.

I see people talking about retailers currently selling the Xbone for $330 in this thread too... where is this?



J_Allard said:
Wow I didn't realize the US gap was that small. lol @ outselling it WW though. Not happening any time soon.

I see people talking about retailers currently selling the Xbone for $330 in this thread too... where is this?


Target and every major retailer so far that significantly dropped the price of the titans fell bundles. It's not hard to understand. You subtract the cost of the game and the year of XBL gold and the console sits at a whopping $330. That is it's current market value according to target. Yes that is how economics works before you begin to protest otherwise with unfounded claims. Even places like Newegg are taking part.



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TheDrill said:
Nicklesbe said:
TheDrill said:

I can refuse to accept your numbers simply from your lack of proper english, it's enough proof for me.

Also I wasn't present any proof, just a claim that NPD numbers are better


With that logic your own terrible english is enough to write off your claims as nonsense. Also you were "presented" pleanty of proof. Or is the the fact the entire game industry trusts those numbers, Xbox came out and said the numbers were accurate, and it was proved that VGC goes back to change their numbers to reflect NPD not enough proof for you?


*plenty

Microsoft never made any announcement confirming the numbers, people come to the wrong conclusions because the xbox site quoted the arcticle.

So I have to ask  because I am not sure if you ever answered this question or not......If your calculations and predictions are based off of VGC numbers and they ALWAYS go back and adjust their numbers to match NPD. Then wouldn't that mean your calculations are wrong? I mean if the site you are using to make your predictions corrects their numbers to match NPD then wouldn't that mean logically that the NPD numbers were more accurate than theirs?

I can respect your predictions and opinions that the XB1 will outsell the PS4 in America because I kind of feel the same way. But when you use incorrect information for you predictions and refuse to admit to it then it seems a littel odd. I guess I just don't get your stance for holding on to what is proven to be(no matter how much you wish it wasn't or try to "ignore" it) incorrect information.



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