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It depends on what you define as American. Do you define American as not being socialist? In this case, socialism is anti-American. Or would you say that, objectively, America cannot be socialist? If you maintain this definition of America, then socialism is anti-American. Or do you define socialism as something that is anti-American? In this case, socialism is anti-American.



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NolSinkler said:
It depends on what you define as American. Do you define American as not being socialist? In this case, socialism is anti-American. Or would you say that, objectively, America cannot be socialist? If you maintain this definition of America, then socialism is anti-American. Or do you define socialism as something that is anti-American? In this case, socialism is anti-American.


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Umm..I think Americans can and should be allowed to do whatever they want, be what ever they want. Saying that, Socialism and Communism are usually both things frowned upon in America. It is just not illegal anymore. Was it ever illegal? Just highly frowned upon. No, I refuse to look at some history website. I am pretty sure it was illegal to be communist.

But this is not about communism. This is about America. We do not like Communism. Socialism makes many upset. But seems we are going that way. I heard the other day that Obama is trying to bring minumum wage up to the Teens? Crazy!



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spurgeonryan said:
NolSinkler said:
It depends on what you define as American. Do you define American as not being socialist? In this case, socialism is anti-American. Or would you say that, objectively, America cannot be socialist? If you maintain this definition of America, then socialism is anti-American. Or do you define socialism as something that is anti-American? In this case, socialism is anti-American.


On a big E3 day?

 

Umm..I think Americans can and should be allowed to do whatever they want, be what ever they want. Saying that, Socialism and Communism are usually both things frowned upon in America. It is just not illegal anymore. Was it ever illegal? Just highly frowned upon. No, I refuse to look at some history website. I am pretty sure it was illegal to be communist.

But this is not about communism. This is about America. We do not like Communism. Socialism makes many upset. But seems we are going that way. I heard the other day that Obama is trying to bring minumum wage up to the Teens? Crazy!


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DevilRising said:
What an incredibly dumb question to ask. And I'm sorry, the people answering "yes" are also dumb. Saying that any political philosophy short of facism is "unamerican" or "anti-american", goes against the very point and foundation of this country. Where people could be FREE to believe and practice whatever they wished. That didn't just mean religion, it also meant social and political beliefs.

I am a "Democratic Socialist", and I'm proud of that. I don't make a big deal of it, but I'm also not ashamed of it, and why should I be? To me, "socialism" means caring more about the overall good of the people, than the good of the government or big business. To me, "socialism" merely means caring about more than just yourself or your immediate circle. And I think quite a LOT of Americans have a very skewed and incorrect view of what socialism as a philosophy actually is. It has nothing to do with politics. It is a set of socio-economic ideals and values.

So stating that "socialism is anti-American", is outright stupidity. I'm sorry if that upsets some people, but it's the truth. People in America are allowed to believe and think however the fuck they want, and the only thing that would be TRULY "anti-American", would be someone actively trying to deny people that right.


Just splitting the hair here, but isnt socialism an economical/sociological term, rather then political? I mean you can have a socialist economy even if you have democracy orcommunism. It was never trully clear for me, and I think its understandable,m mainly because there is probably no concrete definition and several schools of toughts about it.

And I think that is the core issue here. Socialism is not well defined and 99% of people have no idea what it means. They use it like a buzzword, ever since the bolshevik revolution and it managed to receive an extremely negative stigma.

But then you look at many northern europen countries where the quality of life is arguably the best in the world, and found out that most of them have a naturaly evolved socialist economy. Not in the purest form, mind you, but then there are rarely any politcal or economic phenomenas that are on-par with their definition.



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Isn't the welfare of the people written down in the constitution? Socialism is an integrated part in every society, just as capitalism is. So no, believing in welfare for the people is not anti-American.



Just reading Jack London's 'Iron heel'. Fantastic reading. Try it, its about American view on socialism and capitalism of a century ago, but a lot of things seems fresh and modern.



The short answer is "no."
Believe it or not, things in America aren't quite what they seem to be. The people living here in the USA don't really know much about their own country or the classification of their own beliefs. Many are just raised to demonize certain beliefs while praising another, not really knowing what each entails. The USA contains many kinds of people, and to call whichever one the "American" way is, in fact, not how America became what most people like about it.



If it wasnt for socialist ideals we wouldn't have public services, from public postal service to education and more. The socialist pillar is kind of whats holding this country together to be quite honest. The banks and businesses during the economic downfall depended on the tax dollar of the American consumer. Essentially we all had stock in them for that short period of time to keep them running. Very socialist indeed. That baillout was quite socialist, but it saved our economy from collapsing on its head.



Most Americans don't actually know what socials ism or communism mean (particularly those with right of center political views)

 The words have become a catchall for anything they dislike

whenever they say socialism is bad, I always ask them to define what they mean by socialism

For the most part they feel its about giving poor people (nonwhite poor people in particular) things like food and healthcare