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Good to know they are planning on recruiting again. Guessing they want some younger talent to bring in new ideas. And obviously get away with paying them less.

The Santa Monica game is hard to believe. Understandable there were considerable layoffs after letting it drag on that long and wasting so much money.



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DerNebel said:
Justagamer said:
DerNebel said:

Oh my  god, really?...What's the damage control?

Whats the damage control?! Really?!.... companies fire/lose people all the time. Companies cancel games all the time for numerous reasons. But what you dont hear is those companies having someone make up a bunch of reasons, or explainations. fact Is all of this shit is happening all at once. If this shit was just business as usual, nobody would be coming out to tell the reasons why. All i hear is, this guy had an ego, that guy sucked, that game was a pieceof shit..... damage control, buddy, plain and simple. I think whats going on is, maybe, these high profile producers and people, have lost some confidence in sony as a whole. aside from the ps4 doing phenominally well, the company hasnt got much else. These people are bailing, before sony goes bankrupt, and the real restructuring of sony starts to happen. There you go.

Oh, you're playing the popular "it's all just because Sony is going to be bankrupt and doomed etc" card, how surprising. The reason he's giving some explanation is because the media and people like you have been in total panic mode over all these things in the last couple weeks, has that ever occured to you? Like I've said not every bad news about Sony can immediately be attributed to them doing not so peachy financially. Or do you seriously believe that Stig left because he thought "damn I just burned through 4 years and tons of resources and have nothing to show for it, I better get the fuck out of SSM, since this Sony ship is going down"?

So I'd much rather believe the reasons given in the OP, then your "oh they're bailing because Sony will soon be bankrupt"-explanation, cause if that was the case they would've been out of there years ago, since we've been hearing this since 2007 or something, and not now when the PS4 is doing as phenomenal as it is.


They didnt leave years ago, because they hadnt made a name for themselves yet, but i guess they started at the top, according to you. Damage control, keep it up. Its helping!



Sony was way too soft on their studios and it really hurt them in times of critical need. Polyphony took WAY too long to put out GT, even tho it sold well....it aint pushing the type of numbers anymore to warrent a free pass like it used to get. Last Guardian development is a total catastrophe and a syphon on Sony funds. The only reason it is still in dev is because there would be an even worse backlash if this game that so many were anticipating doesn't release. This is a lot like FFVersusXIII, which we saw SquareEnix stock plummet when the rumors that it was canceled came out(which it most likely was but Square was trying to kill it quietly as not to alarm stockholders and save face). There are numerous 1st Party Endeavors which did not earn their keep. Starhawk,PSASBR, Puppeteer, Resistance 3, WKC, MAG, etc. Many of these costing way too much for what they produced. Sony has always been a fan of letting artistic minds run free.....but they have to draw the line and when these developers promise the next big hit Sony is now holding them accountable and their jobs are on the line. Sony can't afford anymore dud releases. To be on Sony's good Dev list you need to be making a game that either showcases their hardware power (Killzone, LBP,Uncharted) and/or able to sell millions with minimal loss.

In the dev's defense, Sony definitely sent a few of these games out to die with no marketing and at the worst possible times.



      

      

      

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Justagamer said:
DerNebel said:

Oh, you're playing the popular "it's all just because Sony is going to be bankrupt and doomed etc" card, how surprising. The reason he's giving some explanation is because the media and people like you have been in total panic mode over all these things in the last couple weeks, has that ever occured to you? Like I've said not every bad news about Sony can immediately be attributed to them doing not so peachy financially. Or do you seriously believe that Stig left because he thought "damn I just burned through 4 years and tons of resources and have nothing to show for it, I better get the fuck out of SSM, since this Sony ship is going down"?

So I'd much rather believe the reasons given in the OP, then your "oh they're bailing because Sony will soon be bankrupt"-explanation, cause if that was the case they would've been out of there years ago, since we've been hearing this since 2007 or something, and not now when the PS4 is doing as phenomenal as it is.


They didnt leave years ago, because they hadnt made a name for themselves yet, but i guess they started at the top, according to you. Damage control, keep it up. Its helping!

Yeah, Stig has made a great name for himself after crashing this game. Amy Hennig was totally unknown before this year and Col Rodgers has obviously become a huge name in the game industry since he joined Sony. The only one that we could say made a name for himself is Justin Richmond but he already did that in 2011 when Uncharted 3 shipped, if not even earlier.



DerNebel said:
Justagamer said:
DerNebel said:

Oh, you're playing the popular "it's all just because Sony is going to be bankrupt and doomed etc" card, how surprising. The reason he's giving some explanation is because the media and people like you have been in total panic mode over all these things in the last couple weeks, has that ever occured to you? Like I've said not every bad news about Sony can immediately be attributed to them doing not so peachy financially. Or do you seriously believe that Stig left because he thought "damn I just burned through 4 years and tons of resources and have nothing to show for it, I better get the fuck out of SSM, since this Sony ship is going down"?

So I'd much rather believe the reasons given in the OP, then your "oh they're bailing because Sony will soon be bankrupt"-explanation, cause if that was the case they would've been out of there years ago, since we've been hearing this since 2007 or something, and not now when the PS4 is doing as phenomenal as it is.


They didnt leave years ago, because they hadnt made a name for themselves yet, but i guess they started at the top, according to you. Damage control, keep it up. Its helping!

Yeah, Stig has made a great name for himself after crashing this game. Amy Hennig was totally unknown before this year and Col Rodgers has obviously become a huge name in the game industry since he joined Sony. The only one that we could say made a name for himself is Justin Richmond but he already did that in 2011 when Uncharted 3 shipped, if not even earlier.

All im seeing from you is, damage control. Im done wasting time on this coversation. Have a good day.



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Nintentacle said:
The new people they higher better be just as good, or better.

Just as good in wasting money and resources or even better? Man you must hate Sony.



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Justagamer said:
DerNebel said:

Yeah, Stig has made a great name for himself after crashing this game. Amy Hennig was totally unknown before this year and Col Rodgers has obviously become a huge name in the game industry since he joined Sony. The only one that we could say made a name for himself is Justin Richmond but he already did that in 2011 when Uncharted 3 shipped, if not even earlier.

All im seeing from you is, damage control. Im done wasting time on this coversation. Have a good day.

All I'm seeing from you is a guy that is angry that I don't agree with his brilliant "Sony will soon be dead, that's why people are leaving"-explanation.

You don't want to discuss this anymore fine but next time you can just admit that you're out of arguments to support your point.



Justagamer said:
DerNebel said:

Yeah, Stig has made a great name for himself after crashing this game. Amy Hennig was totally unknown before this year and Col Rodgers has obviously become a huge name in the game industry since he joined Sony. The only one that we could say made a name for himself is Justin Richmond but he already did that in 2011 when Uncharted 3 shipped, if not even earlier.

All im seeing from you is, damage control. Im done wasting time on this coversation. Have a good day.

What a hypocritical statement. You've been attacking DerNebel just because he doesn't agree with your viewpoint and you repeatedly use the "damage control" rhetoric without elaborating whatsoever. Pete Dodd, regardless of what you say about his credibility as an insider, gave a reasonable explanation as to why these events are happening to Sony's internal studios. Instead of trying to give a good countertheory, you immediately resort to the all-too-familiar "damage control" rhetoric. Apparently, something about what Pete Dodd and DerNebel said must have struck such a dissonant chord to you or otherwise, we wouldn't have seen this kind of reaction.



Fanboy drivel nothing more. Ironicly this started as some fanboy trite post on neogaf and was quickly dismissed only to resurface as insider facts. Pure bullshit to the highest degree



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This whole thread is bizarre. I suppose during this week Sony's layoffs were linked to the company's overall problems? And now this insider is providing an explanation for how those layoffs have nothing to do with Sony's overall situation? Is that it?



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